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Multiple-zone audio management - System Level Audio

Next Meeting -

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Thursday - 01 October - 11:30am CEST

Webex link

Dial by your location: find your local number here

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  • Go through the tickets that are in the active sprint and do a round on them

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AUDIO_HAL_CW2039
AUDIO_HAL_CW2039
Thursday - 24 September - 11:30am CEST (AUDIO_HAL_CW39)

Participants

Gunnar Andersson Philippe Robin Stephen Lawrence Unknown User (wassim.filali) Suhasini Raghuram Henric Carlsson Unknown User (niskandar)

Minutes

Updates from last meeting:

  • Restructuring the repositories talk can wait for when Tieto are in the meeting. For now the current repo is enough.
  • Nadim's update: announcement about the pre-recorded presentation.
    • Nadim: I won't be able to record the presentation and in general there will be less time for me to work on GENIVI related topics due to shifts in my priorities.
    • Philippe: could you maybe suggest that we prepare the slides and you just record them?
    • Nadim: I'll send this request yes.
  • Stephen will try to update his topic by next meeting.
  • Suhasisni's Update: waiting for the approval to purchase the board (decided on Qualcom).

Discussion about how to handle the push for GENIVI tasks to mangement:

  • Gunnar: the key point is to integrate the GENIVI tasks in your daily tasks, and not treat it like a side project. Try to search for common points or wishes in order to contribute to the project while doing your daily tasks.
  • Wassim: in BMW my argument is that the GENIVI Audio HAL is a better solution than the Linux HAL and investing time in GENIVI tasks leads to better product development.

Going through the list of Jira tickets

  • Bluetooth Device Integration in Android System

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    • Gunnar: Is there an interest in this?
      • We need to check the existing capabilities of Android first, what are our needs, and design a solution for this
      • A lot of flexibility is needed usually in this subject, for example using the microphone for more than 1 thing, rerouting the audio, etc.)
    • Wassim: yes i can confirm that this is an interesting subject for us but i would not take it all on my own, i could be assisting
    • Suhasini: I'm also interested and I would take this ticket but I would require more documentation about BT Android first.
    • Wassim: the BT android documentation is good but I think we should also invest in going to seminars of Android etc. and try to get the latest Android documentations (for example currently the Android 11 documentation would be good)
      This would buy us at least 2-3 months before the official documentation come up
    • Gunnar: this also would make sure that we are not designing against new Android decisions or a redundant solution
    • Wassim: unfortunately I cannot share such documents from seminars
  • Ensure measurability of full audio path latency
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    • Nadim: I cannot continue investing this ticket because of the previously mentioned priority changes
    • Gunnar: Some will have to take it up again when they are free.
  • Offlading topics
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    • The goal is to identify the technology needed to get audio transferred out of Android.
    • Maybe it makes sense to agree on common terms and definition in our GENIVI meeting that would let us describe the system/design commonly. For example what is vendor partition, Android domain, etc.

Question about the Webex link

  • Suhasini: is the attached webex link a repeatable one? Usually when we click on it it says that the meeting happened in the past so the meeting is not a recurring one.
  • Philippe Robin: Could you please create a repeating Webex meeting and link it on this page?
Gathered todos
  •  @All: Try to connect your daily work to GENIVI tasks
  •  @All: Contact Google or check in your company if there are already documentation about the latest Android
  •  @All: work on the repeatable platform setup in each of your companies (section: Additional build and run info in PoC Milestones and Work Breakdown)

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AUDIO_HAL_CW2034
AUDIO_HAL_CW2034
Thursday 3 September - 11:30am CEST (AUDIO_HAL_CW33)

Participants

Gunnar Andersson Stephen Lawrence Henric Carlsson Piotr Krawczyk

Minutes

Discussion on feature content for MS3 demo (MS3 = virtual tech summit scheduled on October 26-30) Gunnar Andersson can you add the notes you took during the call ? thanks

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AUDIO_HAL_CW2033
AUDIO_HAL_CW2033
Thursday 13 August - 11:30am CEST (AUDIO_HAL_CW33)

Participants

Gunnar Andersson Stephen Lawrence Henric Carlsson Piotr Krawczyk Unknown User (niskandar)

Minutes

Going through the previous minutes of the meeting.

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AUDIO_HAL_CW2032
AUDIO_HAL_CW2032
Thursday 06 August - 11:30am CEST (AUDIO_HAL_CW32)

Participants

Suhasini Raghuram Gunnar Andersson Stephen Lawrence Unknown User (niskandar)

Minutes

Going through the previous minutes of the meeting.

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AUDIO_HAL_CW2030
AUDIO_HAL_CW2030
Thursday 23 July - 11:30am CEST (AUDIO_HAL_CW30)

Participants

Philippe Robin Suhasini Raghuram Unknown User (wassim.filali) Unknown User (niskandar) Stephen Lawrence Piotr Krawczyk

Minutes

Going through the previous todo list:

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AUDIO_HAL_CW2029
AUDIO_HAL_CW2029
Thursday 16 July - 11:30am CEST (AUDIO_HAL_CW29)

Participants

Philippe Robin Gunnar Andersson Unknown User (bartoszbialek) Suhasini Raghuram Unknown User (wassim.filali) Unknown User (niskandar) Stephen Lawrence

Minutes

Alternative board for Suhasini, any upadte on that matter?

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AUDIO_HAL_CW2026
AUDIO_HAL_CW2026
Thursday 25 June - 11:30am CEST (AUDIO_HAL_CW26)

Participants

Philippe Robin Gunnar Andersson Piotr Krawczyk Unknown User (bartoszbialek) Henric Carlsson Suhasini Raghuram Unknown User (wassim.filali) Unknown User (niskandar)

Minutes

Should the minutes be more like a transcript?

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AUDIO_HAL_CW2025
AUDIO_HAL_CW2025
Thursday 18 June - 11:30am CEST (AUDIO_HAL_CW25)

Participants

Unknown User (niskandar) Gunnar Andersson Unknown User (zafirulhassan) Piotr Krawczyk Unknown User (bartoszbialek) Unknown User (zafirulhassan)

Minutes

Looking at the history, the best course of action here is to go through the Jira tickets and assign them to start working on them.

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AUDIO_HAL_CW2023
AUDIO_HAL_CW2023
Thursday 04 June - 11:30am CEST (AUDIO_HAL_CW23)

Participants

Unknown User (wassim.filali) Philippe Robin Gunnar Andersson Piotr Krawczyk Unknown User (bartoszbialek) Henric Carlsson Stephen Lawrence Suhasini Raghuram Unknown User (niskandar)

Minutes

Let's start by going through the points that we have gathered last time in PoC Milestones and Work Breakdown.

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AUDIO_HAL_CW2022
AUDIO_HAL_CW2022
Wednesday 20 May - 11:30am CEST (AUDIO_HAL_CW22)

Participants

Unknown User (wassim.filali) Unknown User (niskandar) Philippe Robin Gunnar Andersson Piotr Krawczyk Unknown User (bartoszbialek) @Henric Unknown User (zafirulhassan)

Minutes

Introduction to members and new member Zafirul

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AUDIO_HAL_CW2021
AUDIO_HAL_CW2021
Wednesday 20 May - 11:30am CEST (AUDIO_HAL_CW21)

Participants

Suhasini Raghuram Unknown User (wassim.filali) Unknown User (niskandar) Philippe Robin Gunnar Andersson Piotr Krawczyk Unknown User (bartoszbialek) @Henric

Minutes

Debriefing of the virtual summit

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AUDIO_HAL_CW2019
AUDIO_HAL_CW2019
Thursday 7 May - 11:30am CET (AUDIO_HAL_CW19)

Participants

Suhasini Raghuram Unknown User (wassim.filali) Unknown User (niskandar) Philippe Robin Andrii Chepurnyi Harald Bartholomae Ruslan Shymkevych Gunnar Andersson Piotr Krawczyk @Henric

Minutes

Going through the presentation of Wassim

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AUDIO_HAL_CW18
AUDIO_HAL_CW18
Thursday 30 April - 11:30am CET (AUDIO_HAL_CW18)

Participants

Philippe RobinSuhasini Raghuram Unknown User (wassim.filali) @Henric Ruslan Shymkevych

apologies: Piotr Krawczyk Unknown User (bartoszbialek)

Minutes

Review of Ruslan's email of 23 April - archive

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AUDIO_HAL_CW17
AUDIO_HAL_CW17
Thursday 23 April - 11:30am CET (AUDIO_HAL_CW17)

Participants

Philippe Robin Piotr Krawczyk Unknown User (bartoszbialek) Suhasini Raghuram Unknown User (niskandar) Unknown User (wassim.filali) @Henric

Minutes

Updates of the tasks done from last week: Wassim, Piotr, Nadim

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AUDIO_HAL_CW16
AUDIO_HAL_CW16
Thursday 16 April - 11:30am CET (AUDIO_HAL_CW16)

Participants

Philippe Robin Gunnar Andersson Piotr Krawczyk Unknown User (bartoszbialek) Suhasini Raghuram Ruslan Murtazin Unknown User (niskandar) Unknown User (wassim.filali) Andrii Chepurnyi @Henric

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  •  Discuss the gathered topics, who can work on which topics and which strategy
  •  Status update on the "access raw streams"
Minutes

Changes done in this page Android and System Level Audio:

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AUDIO_HAL_CW15
AUDIO_HAL_CW15
Thursday 09 April - 11:30am CET (AUDIO_HAL_CW15)

Participants

Philippe Robin Gunnar Andersson Piotr Krawczyk Unknown User (bartoszbialek)Andrii Chepurnyi@Henric Suhasini Raghuram Stephen Lawrence

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  • from last week's minutes
    • Discuss the gathered topics, who can work on which topics and which strategy
  • Status update on the "access raw streams"
  • AOB
    • abstract of the GENIVI virtual tech summit AASIG Audio HAL workshop
Minutes

list of gathered topics on multi-zone audio management

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Thursday 02 April - 11:30am CET (AUDIO_HAL_CW14)

Participants

Philippe Robin Gunnar Andersson Piotr Krawczyk Unknown User (bartoszbialek) Unknown User (wassim.filali) Andrii Chepurnyi Unknown User (niskandar) @Henric Suhasini Raghuram

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  •  Slides from Wassim about the two models inside and outside of AA
  •  discussion of the cases/features that we are trying to solve
  •  checking the Audio Manager to decide whether or not it needs an update
Minutes

Slides of Wassim

  • 2 strategies or options:
    • android provides sources and sinks
    • Android controls the complete systems
  • We will not discuss the need to have such options
    • Basically some functions cannot be integrated to AA
    • Audio sources coming from android or from external (android not aware of them)
  • Each strategy has limitations and can be criticized
  • Idea is to get each model and apply to it questions/cases
  • Questions like safety sources, raw streams, etc.

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