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Multiple-zone audio management - System Level Audio

Next Meeting - Thursday

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18 February 2021 - 11:30am CET (AUDIO_HAL

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CW2107)

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  • Access code: 297 637 101
  • Meeting password: 92839687

Agenda

  • check progress on AASIG-119 and AASIG-92

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AUDIO_HAL_CW2106
AUDIO_HAL_CW2106
Thursday 04 February 2021 - 11:30am CET (AUDIO_HAL_CW2106)

Participants

Unknown User (wassim.filali) Gunnar Andersson Unknown User (niskandar) Stephen Lawrence Philippe Robin Suhasini Raghuram Piotr Krawczyk

Minutes

Update regarding the platform

  • we got the original manifest
  • it looks simple to integrate into the scripts that we have (this is the next steps to be done here)
  • As a reference here is a link to the different repositories

Discussion about the stories

  • Main Question. What is more interesting, how do we go futher?
    • Networked Audio (Breakdown rework)
      • Piotr: maybe if we can study topics outside of Android to offer solutions that are not on the plate of Android. This could be even added to Android.
    • Android control (Android and System Level Audio)
      • How can we deal with this? how much custom code do we need?
      • Wassim: I think here there are more hanging fruits
    • Both approaches shouldn't block each others.
  • Jira
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    • Overview about the issue and the goal
    • there are some alsa and tinyalsa plugins inforamtion that we can check
    • Once we understand the limitation (questions in the ticket) we can close the ticket, this would need to look into the links gathered
    • DoD would be a kind of a presentation that could allow us to start a conversation/discussion
      • maybe add an entry into confluence and turn it into a presentation
  • Discussion about the
    Jira
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    • Regarding the whole concept of the AVB, do we have a demo to show that the concept works?
    • Piotr: i'm interested in showing this in a complete stack. So an approach to form a complete solution, first we start with a diagram to define:
      • what would be the interfaces with Android
      • what would be the alsa gateway
      • what would be the AVB software stack and alsa solution
      • etc.
    • if we can create a diagram of all of this, it would give us an overview to allow us to create a complete demo about the solution.
    • There are many points to check and explore such as different suppliers or silos for different parts of the stack
    • What is the definition of "Offloading"
  • Shared screen of Stephen
    • just to check if such documents are interesting to continue the discussion of the AVB approach
    • This will help towards the ticket
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      (creating an overview)
  • Feedback from FOSDEM
    • A lot of participants 300-400 and Q&A was successful
    • Thank you for the guys who participated
  • Suhasini (4 weeks missing)

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AUDIO_HAL_CW2105
AUDIO_HAL_CW2105
Thursday 04 February 2021 - 11:30am CET (AUDIO_HAL_CW2105)

Participants

Unknown User (wassim.filali) Gunnar Andersson Unknown User (niskandar) Stephen Lawrence Philippe Robin @Chris Simmons(2net)

Minutes

Discussion about

Jira
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AUDIO_HAL_CW2104
AUDIO_HAL_CW2104
Thursday 28 January 2021 - 11:30am CET (AUDIO_HAL_CW2104)

Participants

Suhasini Raghuram Unknown User (wassim.filali) Gunnar Andersson Unknown User (niskandar) Stephen Lawrence Philippe Robin

Minutes

Discussion about the AVB and next steps or topics to do (but we cannot reach the conclusion without Piotr)

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AUDIO_HAL_CW2103
AUDIO_HAL_CW2103
Thursday 21 January 2021 - 11:30am CET (AUDIO_HAL_CW2103)

Participants

Suhasini Raghuram Unknown User (wassim.filali) Stephen Lawrence Piotr Krawczyk Gunnar Andersson

Apologies

Unknown User (niskandar)

Minutes

Review of the backlog for audio HAL

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AUDIO_HAL_CW2102
AUDIO_HAL_CW2102
Thursday 14 January 2021 - 11:30am CET (AUDIO_HAL CW2102)

Participants

Suhasini Raghuram Unknown User (wassim.filali) Stephen Lawrence Piotr Krawczyk Gunnar Andersson Unknown User (niskandar)

Minutes

Philippe: talking about the FOSDEM presentation, if some time is left we could mention the backlog tasks.

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Thursday 17 December 2020 - 11:30am CET (AUDIO_HAL CW50)

Participants

Gunnar Andersson Philippe Robin Suhasini Raghuram Stephen Lawrence Piotr Krawczyk

apologies: Wassim Filali, Unknown User (niskandar)

Minutes

How to get help on the Kingfisher board

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AUDIO_HAL_CW2050
AUDIO_HAL_CW2050
Thursday 10 December 2020 - 11:30am CET (AUDIO_HAL CW50)

Participants

Gunnar Andersson Philippe Robin Unknown User (wassim.filali) Suhasini Raghuram Stephen Lawrence Unknown User (niskandar)

Minutes

Virtual open source conference. GENIVI was recommended to give a talk (Fosdem: biggest open source conference). If we submit anything to the Embedded Mobile and Automotive dev room, we need to have strong code examples.

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AUDIO_HAL_CW2049
AUDIO_HAL_CW2049
Thursday 03 December 2020 - 11:30am CET (AUDIO_HAL CW49)

Participants

Gunnar Andersson Philippe Robin Piotr Krawczyk Unknown User (wassim.filali)  Suhasini Raghuram Stephen Lawrence Mohan Karthik Unknown User (niskandar)

Minutes

Continuing the session about Network Audio Synchronization and answering questions

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AUDIO_HAL_CW2048
AUDIO_HAL_CW2048
Thursday 26 November 2020 - 11:30am CET (AUDIO_HAL CW48)

Participants

Gunnar Andersson Philippe Robin Piotr Krawczyk Unknown User (wassim.filali)  Johan Suhasini Raghuram Stephen Lawrence Mohan Karthik Chris Simmonds Unknown User (niskandar)

Minutes

Wassim giving a session about Network Audio Synchronization (many additional information came from Mohan Karthik)

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AUDIO_HAL_CW2046
AUDIO_HAL_CW2046
Thursday - 12 November - 11:30am CET (AUDIO_HAL CW46)

Participants

Gunnar Andersson Philippe Robin Piotr Krawczyk Unknown User (wassim.filali)  Unknown User (niskandar)

Minutes

Going through the list of prioritized topics:

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Thursday - 5 November - 11:30am CET

Participants

Gunnar Andersson Philippe Robin Stephen Lawrence  Suhasini Raghuram, Unknown User (wassim.filali),  Chris Simmonds

Minutes

Review of the list of prioritarized topics

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Thursday - 1 October - 11:30am CEST

Participants

Gunnar Andersson Philippe Robin Stephen Lawrence  Suhasini Raghuram Henric Carlsson

apologies: Unknown User (wassim.filali) Unknown User (niskandar)

Minutes

Review the work breakdown structure and update it to get a shared knowledge of the project status before preparing the agenda of the AHAL working session at the tech summit

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AUDIO_HAL_CW2039
AUDIO_HAL_CW2039
Thursday - 24 September - 11:30am CEST (AUDIO_HAL_CW39)

Participants

Gunnar Andersson Philippe Robin Stephen Lawrence Unknown User (wassim.filali) Suhasini Raghuram Henric Carlsson Unknown User (niskandar)

Minutes

Updates from last meeting:

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Thursday 17 September - 11:30am CEST

Participants

Gunnar Andersson Stephen Lawrence Henric Carlsson Piotr Krawczyk  Unknown User (wassim.filali)

Minutes

Discussion on demo implementation status

Thursday 10 September - 11:30am CEST

Participants

Gunnar Andersson Stephen Lawrence Henric Carlsson Piotr Krawczyk  Unknown User (wassim.filali) Philippe Robin

Minutes

Discussion on configuration & demo building & integration of the emulator project, followed by Jira review

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AUDIO_HAL_CW2034
AUDIO_HAL_CW2034
Thursday 3 September - 11:30am CEST (AUDIO_HAL_CW33)

Participants

Gunnar Andersson Stephen Lawrence Henric Carlsson Piotr Krawczyk

Minutes

Discussion on feature content for MS3 demo (MS3 = virtual tech summit scheduled on October 26-30) Gunnar Andersson can you add the notes you took during the call ? thanks

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AUDIO_HAL_CW2033
AUDIO_HAL_CW2033
Thursday 13 August - 11:30am CEST (AUDIO_HAL_CW33)

Participants

Gunnar Andersson Stephen Lawrence Henric Carlsson Piotr Krawczyk Unknown User (niskandar)

Minutes

Going through the previous minutes of the meeting.

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AUDIO_HAL_CW2032
AUDIO_HAL_CW2032
Thursday 06 August - 11:30am CEST (AUDIO_HAL_CW32)

Participants

Suhasini Raghuram Gunnar Andersson Stephen Lawrence Unknown User (niskandar)

Minutes

Going through the previous minutes of the meeting.

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AUDIO_HAL_CW2030
AUDIO_HAL_CW2030
Thursday 23 July - 11:30am CEST (AUDIO_HAL_CW30)

Participants

Philippe Robin Suhasini Raghuram Unknown User (wassim.filali) Unknown User (niskandar) Stephen Lawrence Piotr Krawczyk

Minutes

Going through the previous todo list:

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AUDIO_HAL_CW2029
AUDIO_HAL_CW2029
Thursday 16 July - 11:30am CEST (AUDIO_HAL_CW29)

Participants

Philippe Robin Gunnar Andersson Unknown User (bartoszbialek) Suhasini Raghuram Unknown User (wassim.filali) Unknown User (niskandar) Stephen Lawrence

Minutes

Alternative board for Suhasini, any upadte on that matter?

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AUDIO_HAL_CW2026
AUDIO_HAL_CW2026
Thursday 25 June - 11:30am CEST (AUDIO_HAL_CW26)

Participants

Philippe Robin Gunnar Andersson Piotr Krawczyk Unknown User (bartoszbialek) Henric Carlsson Suhasini Raghuram Unknown User (wassim.filali) Unknown User (niskandar)

Minutes

Should the minutes be more like a transcript?

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AUDIO_HAL_CW2025
AUDIO_HAL_CW2025
Thursday 18 June - 11:30am CEST (AUDIO_HAL_CW25)

Participants

Unknown User (niskandar) Gunnar Andersson Unknown User (zafirulhassan) Piotr Krawczyk Unknown User (bartoszbialek) Unknown User (zafirulhassan)

Minutes

Looking at the history, the best course of action here is to go through the Jira tickets and assign them to start working on them.

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AUDIO_HAL_CW2023
AUDIO_HAL_CW2023
Thursday 04 June - 11:30am CEST (AUDIO_HAL_CW23)

Participants

Unknown User (wassim.filali) Philippe Robin Gunnar Andersson Piotr Krawczyk Unknown User (bartoszbialek) Henric Carlsson Stephen Lawrence Suhasini Raghuram Unknown User (niskandar)

Minutes

Let's start by going through the points that we have gathered last time in PoC Milestones and Work Breakdown.

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AUDIO_HAL_CW2022
AUDIO_HAL_CW2022
Wednesday 20 May - 11:30am CEST (AUDIO_HAL_CW22)

Participants

Unknown User (wassim.filali) Unknown User (niskandar) Philippe Robin Gunnar Andersson Piotr Krawczyk Unknown User (bartoszbialek) @Henric Unknown User (zafirulhassan)

Minutes

Introduction to members and new member Zafirul

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AUDIO_HAL_CW2021
AUDIO_HAL_CW2021
Wednesday 20 May - 11:30am CEST (AUDIO_HAL_CW21)

Participants

Suhasini Raghuram Unknown User (wassim.filali) Unknown User (niskandar) Philippe Robin Gunnar Andersson Piotr Krawczyk Unknown User (bartoszbialek) @Henric

Minutes

Debriefing of the virtual summit

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AUDIO_HAL_CW2019
AUDIO_HAL_CW2019
Thursday 7 May - 11:30am CET (AUDIO_HAL_CW19)

Participants

Suhasini Raghuram Unknown User (wassim.filali) Unknown User (niskandar) Philippe Robin Andrii Chepurnyi Harald Bartholomae Ruslan Shymkevych Gunnar Andersson Piotr Krawczyk @Henric

Minutes

Going through the presentation of Wassim

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AUDIO_HAL_CW18
AUDIO_HAL_CW18
Thursday 30 April - 11:30am CET (AUDIO_HAL_CW18)

Participants

Philippe RobinSuhasini Raghuram Unknown User (wassim.filali) @Henric Ruslan Shymkevych

apologies: Piotr Krawczyk Unknown User (bartoszbialek)

Minutes

Review of Ruslan's email of 23 April - archive

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AUDIO_HAL_CW17
AUDIO_HAL_CW17
Thursday 23 April - 11:30am CET (AUDIO_HAL_CW17)

Participants

Philippe Robin Piotr Krawczyk Unknown User (bartoszbialek) Suhasini Raghuram Unknown User (niskandar) Unknown User (wassim.filali) @Henric

Minutes

Updates of the tasks done from last week: Wassim, Piotr, Nadim

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AUDIO_HAL_CW16
AUDIO_HAL_CW16
Thursday 16 April - 11:30am CET (AUDIO_HAL_CW16)

Participants

Philippe Robin Gunnar Andersson Piotr Krawczyk Unknown User (bartoszbialek) Suhasini Raghuram Ruslan Murtazin Unknown User (niskandar) Unknown User (wassim.filali) Andrii Chepurnyi @Henric

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  •  Discuss the gathered topics, who can work on which topics and which strategy
  •  Status update on the "access raw streams"
Minutes

Changes done in this page Android and System Level Audio:

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AUDIO_HAL_CW15
AUDIO_HAL_CW15
Thursday 09 April - 11:30am CET (AUDIO_HAL_CW15)

Participants

Philippe Robin Gunnar Andersson Piotr Krawczyk Unknown User (bartoszbialek)Andrii Chepurnyi@Henric Suhasini Raghuram Stephen Lawrence

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  • from last week's minutes
    • Discuss the gathered topics, who can work on which topics and which strategy
  • Status update on the "access raw streams"
  • AOB
    • abstract of the GENIVI virtual tech summit AASIG Audio HAL workshop
Minutes

list of gathered topics on multi-zone audio management

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Thursday 02 April - 11:30am CET (AUDIO_HAL_CW14)

Participants

Philippe Robin Gunnar Andersson Piotr Krawczyk Unknown User (bartoszbialek) Unknown User (wassim.filali) Andrii Chepurnyi Unknown User (niskandar) @Henric Suhasini Raghuram

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  •  Slides from Wassim about the two models inside and outside of AA
  •  discussion of the cases/features that we are trying to solve
  •  checking the Audio Manager to decide whether or not it needs an update
Minutes

Slides of Wassim

  • 2 strategies or options:
    • android provides sources and sinks
    • Android controls the complete systems
  • We will not discuss the need to have such options
    • Basically some functions cannot be integrated to AA
    • Audio sources coming from android or from external (android not aware of them)
  • Each strategy has limitations and can be criticized
  • Idea is to get each model and apply to it questions/cases
  • Questions like safety sources, raw streams, etc.

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