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Comment: Today's minutes.

Wednesday 2021-03-03

  • Adam K / Piotr: AUTOSAR - Signal2Service is not really implemented yet.
    • Some VSS to AUTOSAR tooling seems to make sense therefore
    • Tieto want to start  working on this.  First steps is getting runtime platform setup working. Then the design of VSS↔AUTOSAR can start (and be discussed).
  • Quick look at CVII Tech Stack technologies - Protobuf again.
  • Need for full software architecture focus in this project.
    • Separation of safety-critical technologies and info/entertainment/other.  What is being targeted exactly? 
    • Where in a typical architecture are we working?
    • VSS itself is orthogonal to safety/other question.  However, the chosen technologies and implementations may need to be classified from safety perspective.
    • Clarify where different proposals belong. E.g. "MQTT is unlikely in safety domain, right?"
    • Agreement on which technology to use where.
  • Images to show architecture.
  • Big software release announcement next week...
  • Virtualization important aspect to consider.

Wednesday 2021-02-24

  • AUTOSAR - Tieto/EVRY still interested but other priorities came up so the time plan not clear at this point.
  • Signal2Service - check if spec released and if applicable
  • Look at defining the representation of data in AUTOSAR-XML (to prepare VSS to ARXML conversion)
    • FARACON tool would be one approach.  Create a Franca IDL file with some observable data ("Attributes" in FIDL) and run the conversion, study the result.  There is a comprehensive mapping between Franca ↔ ARXML that should be correct.
  • MQTT 
    • VISS over MQTT (Ulf) has been described in W3C Automotive working group.
      • It is embedding VISS in MQTT with a small control protocol defined (over MQTT).
      • Access control strategy is identical to standard VISS. 
        • Topic needs to be "protected" somehow or anyone could listen/inject to traffic.
      • Give some time to let this idea mature before it becomes part of any official specifications.  New ideas and improvements may come up.
    • A more direct VSS-to-MQTT topic mapping is a different and complementary alternative
    • Sebastian:  Publishing to MQTT is easy.  For writing more work required (because access control details not done yet).
      • Steps:  Define the payload message format
      • Steps:  Describe the access control strategy (clients have access to a subset of topics)
      • Steps:  Deciding implementation language and reuse libraries
  • Protobuf – think about how to represent messages - this page

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