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Meeting Notes 2025

Agenda 2025-02-24 (tbc)

Cancelled 2025-04-21 (Easter Monday)

• Public Holiday in many European countries.

Meeting notes 2025-04-14

• please see weekly AOSP for participants: Meeting notes 2025-04-14
• Emulator news thanks, Victor! 
  • see https://github.com/COVESA/aosp_device_covesa_emulator/blob/android-12/README.md

Meeting notes 2025-04-07

• please see weekly AOSP Meeting notes 2025-04-07

Meeting notes 2025-03-31

• Participants: COVESA, Forvia, Appning by Forvia, GM, FORD, Spotify, ParadoxCat, Elektrobit, RemotiveLabs, Allianz, BMW
• Update activities Paradox Cat for AOSP emulator:

  • ARM, X86 Android 12, with boot animation

    instrument cluster – with some placeholder in it (instead of maps?)
    Image Added

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    issues with Android Studio Meerkat, you see the screen only with a workaround

Meeting notes 2025-03-24

• Participants: COVESA, Forvia, Appning by Forvia, GM, FORD, Bosch, ParadoxCat, Elektrobit, RemotiveLabs, Allianz, Valtech Mobility, BMW
• Update activities Paradox Cat for AOSP emulator
  • The repositories are updated, boot animation is now implemented, first prebuilt version is to be distributed via S3 by Paradox Cat.
  • GitHub actions are to be set up by Paradox Cat, testing with AWS needs to be done to decide on operation mode which would not incur too much cost.
• Update planning App Host extension → Prep Board meeting on April 9.
  • First draft from Paradox Cat: COVESA AOSP Template Host v0.1.0.docx

Meeting notes 2025-03-17

• Participants: COVESA, Paradox Cat, Forvia, Appning by Forvia, Ford, GM, RemotiveLabs, Chris Simmonds, Allianz, BMW.
• Emulator on AMM discussion, aligning:
  
  • COVESA AOSP AMM technical sessions - Prep Co-Chairs
    
  • https://www.eventleaf.com/e/ammberlin
• Funding the emulator:
  (info Paul) Board has approved funding for the infrastructure/cloud services needed to build an Emulator. 
  I know some of you have significant experience building emulators. 
  It would be great if we could leverage this and get going with quick cycles capturing our goals and requirements on this page created by Viktor 
  COVESA AOSP Emulator Requirements.
• Next step emulator: Paradox Cat started already with Vanilla Android 12 - X86 and ARM64:
  • Two repos aosp_* set up already: manifest repo, with boot animation file.
  • next step: set up virtual machine, build it, set up binaries, then test it.
    
  • Revisited: COVESA AOSP Emulator Requirements.
  • Further ideas on what could be added and also on how to feed the emulator with data.
• Follow-up on Paradox Cat presentation, see Meeting notes 2025-03-10 →
  • discussion on whether to bring it upstream and when to address this with Google.
  • some links shared:

    https://android.googlesource.com/platform/packages/apps/Car/Templates/+/fb52ffb0be3e3f34c1631009e0b8199ed04f765f

    https://android.googlesource.com/platform/packages/apps/Car/Templates/+/fb52ffb0be3e3f34c1631009e0b8199ed04f765f/OWNERS

    https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/396334725

    https://github.com/android/car-samples/issues/44

    https://source.android.com/docs/automotive/hmi/aosp_host
    
    

  • next step: refinement from Paradox Cat, together with input from the group, and evaluation,
    in analogon to what has been done for Push Notifications (see https://wiki.covesa.global/display/WIK4/COVESA+AOSP+Weekly+2024?preview=/126386376/126386352/UnifiedPush_SoW_15JUL2024.pd)
  • aim: decision in Board meeting April 9 on funding and how to move forward.

Meeting notes 2025-03-10

• Participants: COVESA, Paradox Cat, Antonio Roa-Valverde, Chris Simmonds, Remotive Labs, Bosch, FORD, GM, Endava, Valtech Mobility, Allianz, BMW.
• Proposal in regards to Automotive Template Host from Paradox Cat:
   

  View file
  name Covesa Template Host - Paradox Cat Proposal.pdf height 250

Meeting Recording: https://us06web.zoom.us/rec/share/G90n0CFEzUPdPvLOeWHFkauMTCx3qOHBQCKEKzCuSDSk9Zixa8hqRH0j8PMRpiPs.LYKHKny0hCRuY_DZ

invite Chris: The aosp-devs automotive chanel: go to the main landing page: https://aosp-devs.org/ and follow the link at the top under "Come chat with us"

Meeting notes 2025-03-03

• Participants: Valtech Mobility, Appning by FORVIA, Ford, Forvia, BMW, GM, Elektrobit, Tietoevery, RemotiveLab, Paradox Cat
• Discussed plan for setup (Paradox Cat)
• Templated host
  • Paradox Cat will share their vision and propose something in the next meeting
• Boot animation
  • Use a static image from marketing resources link 

Meeting notes 2025-02-24

• Participants: Forvia, Allianz, 2net, RemotiveLabs, ParadoxCat, Elektrobeat, GM, Gracenote, Appning by Forvia, Mavi, Valtech Mobility, Tietoevry, Paradox Cat, Bosch, Ford, Endava, BMW
  
  • Hosting
    • Approximate breakdown of monthly costs for setting up the Android Automotive OS emulator project on AWS, from Nick, COVESA'S IT manager.
    • Being reviewed by Paradox Cat (Viktor)
      • EC2 Instance (r5.large):
        Approximately $0.126 per hour; for 24/7 operation, this equates to roughly $91 per month.
      • EBS Storage (500 GB on gp3):
        $0.08 per GB per month, totaling $40 for 500 GB.
      • S3 Storage for Artifacts:
        Assuming 100 GB usage, at $0.023 per GB per month, this would cost about $2.30.
      • Data Transfer Costs:
        AWS provides 1 GB per month of free data transfer out to the internet. Beyond that, prices are approximately $0.09 per GB. The cost will depend on your actual usage.
      • Additional Costs:
        Other potential costs include network usage, snapshots, and any specific AWS services like CloudWatch for monitoring, which starts at $0.30 per metric.
  • Boot animation
    • Richard to follow up with Paul to see what's available
    • Static is ok to start with
  • Presentation from Nuno (Appning) about gaps between the AOSP Host & GAS

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    • Need to get feedback from Google on dependency on GAS from the Android for Car library
  • Template Host:
    • Recommendation from Appning to publish a first version of the Host with map rendering support
    • This was built by a paradox cat employee: https://github.com/johan12345/car-templates-host
  • Not done:
• Participants:
• learnings from last week on infrastructure (Paul, Viktor) 
• • gather feedback from participants on white paper, see Meeting notes 2025-02-17
    and decide on where to give feedback (google docs, co-working document?)
  .
• tbc: first feedback from José, appning on documenting the gap between Automotive App Host GAS vs. AOSP
• tbd: emulator requirements revisited
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Meeting notes 2025-02-17

• Participants: GM, FORVIA, Appning by FORVIA, BMW, Bosch, FORD, CARIAD, Elektrobit, Endava, Paradox Cat.
• White paper as project charter; Initial draft - please give your feedback!

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