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Comment: 16/3/2022 minutes

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Related projects walk-through (every week):

ProjectPerson reportingUpdates
  • Kuksa.VAL
Sebastian (Bosch)  No update this week
  • W3C VISS specification (v2)


Ulf 
Ted as backup (both Geotab)

See last week summary - working towards v2
  • WAII VISS server implementation in Go
Ulf Improved and bug fixed curve logic functionality. Pushed to master.

Daniel Wilms (BMW)
(Erik J or Sebastian S as backup)

Discussion of documentation PR with regards to license.

See github for closed issues

  • VSSo
Daniel W  
Ted  

Workshop was held this week:

Met goal of increasing participation. Ford, Volvo and Blackberry present in addition to usual suspects for example.

Probably will form bi-weekly group.

  • VSC & Tools
VSC team members

Magnus provided positive update on MBition involvement in project.

Tom has a draft diagram for the potential wiper demo. Will add to the VSC page.

  • CCS-components
Ulf  
Ulf  No update this week
  • AOS
Artem (EPAM)
No update this week
  • Android Automotive VSS→ Vehicle Properties
    Code Generator

No update this week
  • Covesa GraphQL components
Alexander Domin (BMW)No update this week
(proposed.  worth tracking in CVII call?)(Thomas S) No update this week
Steve (Renesas)
Currently working on 
Progress made on feeder to VSS Data Store
code
prototype. Concentrating on a few data points initially to keep it simple. Feeder is a websocket server. Succesfully receives sim data and converts to VSS data model. Currently working on writing to Apache IoTDB DB.


  • Apologies:
    • Sebastian


  • Minutes:

    • Deep dive
      • VSS and VSC cohabitation
        • Tom would like to see the VSS and VSC cohabitation discussion get going before the AMM.
        • Ulf sees a topic connection to VISS.
        • Steve doesn't feel ownership for the topic in tech stack. Clearly it strongly connects to VSC and VSS.
        • Discussion about kick starting. Decision to bring it up in Monday's VSC call, then depending on that possibly take it onto Tuesdays VSS call.

2022-03-09

Agenda:

  • Regular project recap
  • Decide on timing for extra meetings.
    • Fill out the timing doodle if you have not already.
  • Deep dive/AMM topic planning
    • Develop the deep dive page. What (detail)? When (priority)?
    • We need also to work on the topics for the AMM workshops.
    • Deep dive is an obvious input into that. Currently we have 1 hour scheduled. Is that enough?

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Related projects walk-through (every week):

ProjectPerson reportingUpdates
  • Kuksa.VAL
Sebastian (Bosch)  No change this week
  • W3C VISS specification (v2)


Ulf 
Ted as backup (both Geotab)

Closing out remaining issues for v2. Discussion of extending filtering  (range/compound) see https://github.com/w3c/automotive/issues/450. Looking to keep v2 changes to minimum, before starting bigger changes/new features towards v3
  • WAII VISS server implementation in Go
Ulf 

Ulf planning to add new Redis (CCS component) statestorage support. Timeline in 1-2 weeks.

Daniel Wilms (BMW)
(Erik J or Sebastian S as backup)


Spec changes: int16->float for pitch/roll/yaw for better precision https://github.com/COVESA/vehicle_signal_specification/pull/422

Spec Changes: ADAS states also for EBD (Electronic brakeforce distribution) and EBA (Emergency Brake assist): https://github.com/COVESA/vehicle_signal_specification/pull/418/

Decision to try to release VSS V3.0 before All Members Meeting (end of April)

Discussion about what to do on AMM (to be collected in Wiki), and some roadmapping discussion, (layers, metadata, tools rewrite.. to be collected in Wiki) https://github.com/COVESA/vehicle_signal_specification/wiki/COVESA-AMM-Spring-22

  • VSSo
Daniel W  
Ted  
VSSo published as a First Public Working Draft at W3C
https://www.w3.org/TR/vsso-core/
  • VSC & Tools
Gunnar

Discussion of AMM demo around window wiper ECU service continuing. Tom working on draft high level arch diagram.

  • CCS-components
Ulf  See Redis support last week.
  • AOS
Artem (EPAM)
No major update this week. Work continuing.
  • Android Automotive VSS→ Vehicle Properties
    Code Generator

No change
  • Covesa GraphQL components
Alexander Domin (BMW)No update this week
(proposed.  worth tracking in CVII call?)(Thomas S) 

Maintainers can do from March 28th for presentation.

Getting started guide (website) https://www.eclipse.org/kanto/docs/getting-started/
GitHub: https://github.com/eclipse-kanto

Steve (Renesas)Currently working on feeder to VSS Data Store code.


  • Minutes:

    • Project Summary
      • Kanto
        • Tom reports that Maintainers can do a presentation from March 28th.
        • Discussion of content. Focus of deep dives is the scope of CVII Tech Stack, e.g. shared collab areas and understanding big architecture picture of how components fit together. Suggestion that 50% of time be presentation, 50% discussion of raised collab points.
  • Deep dive scheduling
    • Doodle results
      • 5pm CET has good support but clashes with bi-weekly HV call. Paul would prefer to avoid rescheduling it.
      • 4pm CET (old CCS time) slightly worse in support terms. Sebastian may not be able to attend some but says group should go ahead. Ted thinks he can reschedule clashing meeting.
    • Conclusion:
      • Try 4pm CET.
  • Deep dive topics
    • VSS / VSC integration
      • Seb: this overlaps with VSS and VSC groups and each has different participants. Needs coordination.
      • Steve: agree. I don't think "where" is important, i.e. not "owned" by Tech Stack, what is important is the topic.
      • Group participants are going to need to coordinate the topic. Upcoming AMM is going to be a good moment for everyone to be together.
      • Who is going to AMM?
        • Seb, Tom, Paul, Steve, Ulf, Florian (maybe), Nick (maybe), Erik, Philippe, Ted (would like to but obviously trans-atlantic)
    • General
      • Steve: please add your thoughts and topics to the deep dive page. Other the coming weeks we should refine and then prioritise to actually start the meetings.
  • AMM
    • Steve: Is one hour enough?
    • Agreement that two hours would be better for workshop. Is that possible?
    • Paul will discuss with schedule planners.

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Related projects walk-through (every week):

ProjectPerson reportingUpdates
  • Kuksa.VAL
Sebastian (Bosch)  Upgraded GRPC dependency to enable build on current Raspberry OS (and other platforms using similarly new GCC) https://github.com/eclipse/kuksa.val/issues/250
  • W3C VISS specification (v2)


Ulf 
Ted as backup (both Geotab)

No update this week (Ulf and Ted absent)
  • WAII VISS server implementation in Go
Ulf 

Ulf has pushed the Redis statestorage support mentioned last week, you can find it here:
https://github.com/COVESA/ccs-components/tree/master/statestorage

Publication for its use in WAII on the VISSv2 server github pending.

Steve reports that Renesas have integrated WAII onto the R-Car S4 SoC using the AGL Linux distro, with a data feeder for a simulator writing VSS data to the statestorage DB. Planning to demo this PoC at the AMM.

Daniel Wilms (BMW)
(Erik J or Sebastian S as backup)

- spec: Doc/wording  clarification, that sensors, actuators and attributes are all considered „signals“ https://github.com/COVESA/vehicle_signal_specification/pull/408 
 - spec: Slight refactoring of GPS coordinates (separate vertical/horizontal accuracy) https://github.com/COVESA/vehicle_signal_specification/pull/417
 - spec: Max Line length recommendation https://github.com/COVESA/vehicle_signal_specification/pull/409 
 - tools: vss2ttl (aka ontology) converter merged do official vss-tools repo https://github.com/COVESA/vss-tools/pull/141
 - tools. Unify codebase of 2json, 2csv and 2yaml converters https://github.com/COVESA/vss-tools/pull/146 
 - tools: Fixed warning on badly escaped regexp strings https://github.com/COVESA/vss-tools/pull/147

- FAQ being collected. Github wiki will be used to collect inputs. Not up yet, but now draft on Covesa wiki here: VSS FAQ - Draft Questions and Answers

  • VSSo
Daniel W  
Ted  
Ted update to ML:

We have decided to cut back this workshop to one day for three hours, specifically 14 March from 7-10PDT / 10-13EDT / 16-19CET.

Those who want to propose items for the agenda may do so in Github although with more limited time we have less flexibility.

https://github.com/w3c/vsso/issues/26

  • VSC & Tools
Gunnar

Discussion of AMM demo around Bosch washer ECU service. Outline will be delayed by about a week whilst VSC Lead relocates continents.

Next task: architectural diagram and task splot

  • CCS-components
Ulf  See statestorage above
  • AOS
Artem (EPAM)
No update this week.
  • Android Automotive VSS→ Vehicle Properties
    Code Generator

Work continuing on Android 12 emulation environment
  • Covesa GraphQL components
Alexander Domin (BMW)No update this week
(proposed.  worth tracking in CVII call?)(Thomas S) 

Kanto devs in Bosch wish to present VSS aspects of Kanto:

  • 20 min overview + 10 min Q&A
  • See minutes
Steve (Renesas)Time limited this week. Work continues on data model conversion.


Apologies:

  • Ulf

Minutes:

  • Kanto
    • Thomas reports that project leads in Bosch working on Eclipse Kanto would like to present project
    • Source now available on Eclipse github
    • When?
      • Discussion about how to do 30+min session as this meeting has limited time
      • One approach is to do it as a "deep dive". Paul concerned about having people new to CVII having to sit through rest of the meeting.
      • AI: Thomas will get devs to add it as a topic to deep dive page and get feedback on when.
      • 5pm CET Monday is most liked time slot in Paul's deep dive doodle. Paul realises now that clashes with HV bi-weekly.
      • AI: Paul will consider timings.
    • What, why?
      • Assumption is that presentation is focused on CVII Tech Stack goals. Understanding architecture components and non-differentiating areas of collaboration.
      • From initial presentation discussion we can determine collab areas.
        • Some points that came up in first discussion:
          • Service definition
          • Container orchestration configuration
  • Extra meeting / deep dive
    • Doodle results show preference for "old CCS time" of Monday 5pm CET.
    • Please update the "deep dive" topics page with your thoughts and ideas. This page will be used as driving force for organisation of coming meetings.
  • AMM planning
    • Little time left to discuss. Please think about topic list.

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