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Comment: added 11/5/22 agenda
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2022-05-11

Agenda:

  1. Project Status
  2. Next Deep Dive - CCS Component


ProjectPerson reportingUpdates
  • Kuksa.VAL
Sebastian (Bosch)  


  • W3C VISS specification (v2)


Ulf 
Ted as backup (both Geotab)


  • WAII VISS server implementation in Go
Ulf 

Daniel Wilms (BMW)
(Erik J or Sebastian S as backup)


  • VSSo
Daniel W  
Ted  

  • VSC & Tools
VSC team members
  • CCS-components
Ulf  
  • AOS
Artem (EPAM)

  • Android Automotive VSS→ Vehicle Properties
    Code Generator


  • Covesa GraphQL components
Alexander Domin (BMW)No update
(proposed.  worth tracking in CVII call?)(Thomas S) 


Steve (Renesas)

Minutes:

2022-05-04

Minutes:

  • AMM feedback
    • Paul
      • Workshop
        • Input from Ricardo/NNG on interfacing VSS to ROS RTOS and its DDS messaging
          • Reached out waiting for reply to advance discussion
        • BMW (Adnan) input about links to big tech company
          • As above meeting needed to scope out
      • Next AMM
        • Need input on what ppl want to do to make workshops flow more organically
    • Sebastian
      • Workshops
        • Ppl came expecting 'readout' rather than workshop.
        • Positive was the good attendance and many newcomers, but the flipside of that was it was less 'workshopping'
    • Christian
      • Good discussions
      • Mixed expectations of new members/visitors vs call regulars
      • Good attendance in workshops despite them being scheduled at the end
      • It was cool
    • Florian
      • Good balance between panels, biz/tech track and workshops
    • Ted
      • Attended virtually
      • Enjoyed BMW presentation on VISS integration
  • CVII Tech Stack Workshop talking points
    • SomeIP work occuring in Autosar. No schedule but something to follow.
    • BMW Android/VISS presentation. Major: VISS + Android VHAL feeder, Minor: GraphQL backend.
      • See deep dive discussion below
    • ROS / ADAS DDS to VSS
      • See Paul comment above
    • VSS Feeders / Data Store
      • Seb update on kuksa.val CAN
        • Loosely coupled, i.e. easily reusable
        • CAN feeder in python. Nice for prototype but for production likely look C++, Rust
        • CANOPI
        • Next step: wider discussion about reusing this work in eco-system. More eyes on the code etc.
      • VSS Feeder and Data Store abstraction
        • CCS Component status as starting point
          • Ulf's CCS component slides as possible starting point to deep dive
        • Need to discuss to what extent abstraction is possible or makes sense and for which use cases.
          • e.g. CCS Component current abstraction is simple single key/value API. Fine for low volume but would not scale.
          • In some cases might make sense to just use highest speed native API
      • Steve suggests start planning Deep Dive to discuss VSS Feeders and Data Stores
        • 1st might be:
          • 20-30 min Ulf present CCS slides, followed by wider discussion about abstraction.
        • Ulf sent apologies today. Steve will discuss with him either next week or slack
    • Deep dive next
      • Steve: What other things do you want to discuss in coming weeks?
      • Seb: Dig into what BMW needed/took from VISS protocol to understand their needs. Input may be useful towards VISS v3.
      • Ted has been having OSS roadmap discussion with BMW. Idea is to schedule meeting with Adnan about above when code available.
      • If meeting is in W3C slot then Ted will arrange 'visitor pass' for CVII members to attend.

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