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- Project Status
- Next Deep Dive - CCS Component
| VSC team members | | Ulf | | Artem (EPAM)
| - Android Automotive VSS→ Vehicle Properties
Code Generator
| - Covesa GraphQL components
| Alexander Domin (BMW) | No update |
(proposed. worth tracking in CVII call?) | (Thomas S) | | Steve (Renesas) | ...
| No update |
| VSC team members | Paul: I will be discussing with OEMs. Next weeks call will include deployment ideas. |
| Ulf | No update |
| Artem (EPAM)
| No update |
- Android Automotive VSS→ Vehicle Properties
Code Generator
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| Engaging OEMs in what they need in AOSP |
- Covesa GraphQL components
| Alexander Domin (BMW) | No update |
(proposed. worth tracking in CVII call?) | (Thomas S) | Added CANOPI to integration backlog. Integration to Apertis containers. Local digital twins.
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| Steve (Renesas) | No update |
Minutes:
- CCS Components: State Storage Deep Dive Agenda
- Timing
- 15-20 min: Ulf Intro presentation on CSS Components: State Storage.
- 40 min: reaction and building future plan
- Technical API discussion
- Design Issues in UIf's presentation
- Review current State Storage component API
- Anything to fix or extend?
- In VSS Terminology State Storage is 'simple'. Is this component left (fit) for that use case and something else is needed for 'more powerful' or do we reuse/extend?
- Abstraction APIs
- To Feeder, to Server
- Requirements
- Speed
- Low vs medium vs high frequency
- Native for high frequency?
- Kuksa.val is also a target
- Last value vs time series
- VISS protocol has some TS query
- 'History filtering'
- Simple support for this in current WAII. Other process (e.g. comms) must tell WAII to start/stop recordering. Then VISS client (e.g. cloud) must detect vehicle became disconnected and query for missing data.
- Kuksa currently has no TS
- Date
2022-05-04
Minutes:
- AMM feedback
- Paul
- Workshop
- Input from Ricardo/NNG on interfacing VSS to ROS RTOS and its DDS messaging
- Reached out waiting for reply to advance discussion
- BMW (Adnan) input about links to big tech company
- As above meeting needed to scope out
- Next AMM
- Need input on what ppl want to do to make workshops flow more organically
- Sebastian
- Workshops
- Ppl came expecting 'readout' rather than workshop.
- Positive was the good attendance and many newcomers, but the flipside of that was it was less 'workshopping'
- Christian
- Good discussions
- Mixed expectations of new members/visitors vs call regulars
- Good attendance in workshops despite them being scheduled at the end
- It was cool
- Florian
- Good balance between panels, biz/tech track and workshops
- Ted
- Attended virtually
- Enjoyed BMW presentation on VISS integration
- CVII Tech Stack Workshop talking points
- SomeIP work occuring in Autosar. No schedule but something to follow.
- BMW Android/VISS presentation. Major: VISS + Android VHAL feeder, Minor: GraphQL backend.
- See deep dive discussion below
- ROS / ADAS DDS to VSS
- VSS Feeders / Data Store
- Seb update on kuksa.val CAN
- Loosely coupled, i.e. easily reusable
- CAN feeder in python. Nice for prototype but for production likely look C++, Rust
- CANOPI
- Next step: wider discussion about reusing this work in eco-system. More eyes on the code etc.
- VSS Feeder and Data Store abstraction
- CCS Component status as starting point
- Ulf's CCS component slides as possible starting point to deep dive
- Need to discuss to what extent abstraction is possible or makes sense and for which use cases.
- e.g. CCS Component current abstraction is simple single key/value API. Fine for low volume but would not scale.
- In some cases might make sense to just use highest speed native API
- Steve suggests start planning Deep Dive to discuss VSS Feeders and Data Stores
- 1st might be:
- 20-30 min Ulf present CCS slides, followed by wider discussion about abstraction.
- Ulf sent apologies today. Steve will discuss with him either next week or slack
- Deep dive next
- Steve: What other things do you want to discuss in coming weeks?
- Seb: Dig into what BMW needed/took from VISS protocol to understand their needs. Input may be useful towards VISS v3.
- Ted has been having OSS roadmap discussion with BMW. Idea is to schedule meeting with Adnan about above when code available.
- If meeting is in W3C slot then Ted will arrange 'visitor pass' for CVII members to attend.
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