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Comment: Comments on Bosch answers. We ought to move and organize answers over time.

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  • Which topic in the matrix will you provide resources to?
  • Which topics are still missing?
  • Are the already existing proposed (sub) projects appropriate for you?
    • Is there any hindrance for you to participate in those existing proposed projects (GENIVI, W3C participation)
  • Which (new) sub-project meeting will your company start and lead?
  • Which parts (sub-trees in the hierarchy) of the standard data / services catalog will you provide input to?
  • Which technologies would you like to propose in the "agreed-upon" technology stack?
  • How can we start discussing your internal structure (organizational/technical) to understand how the CVII best supports it?  
    • E.g.:  Which standards do you use today?
    •         Where is it realistic to introduce the new standards?
    •         Where (in your particular system) shall there be translation between legacy/proprietary and the new standards?
  • Will your company further support the development of these types of activities by joining GENIVI and/or W3C?

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Partial Reply RB GmbH (Bosch)

  • Which topic in the matrix will you provide resources to?

    CATALOGDevelop main Standard Data Catalog
    (META)MODELDefine standard Data model Rule Set / meta-model
    ALIGNMENTAlign with SENSORIS
  • Which topics are still missing?
    • Not completely "missing", but "Services/RPC" are an important point, Currently (VSC) almost nothing, and not clear how it will "tie into" VSS without reinventing the wheel
      • Gunnar: Good point.  There are already discussions (in VSS call and RPC/VSC meeting) and some proposed strategy for this.  But I think it's important enough to add, so I created a line in the table.
    • In terms of ARA:: Com there are two perfectly matching mechanisms => Events and Methods => IMHO VSS is the perfect base for that discussion
      • Gunnar: +1.  To each company: please help us identify who (involved in AUTOSAR) can be part of driving that discussion.
    • Kind of Kind of reference implementation (partly covered by kuksa.val) but whole stack is missingval) but whole stack is missing
      • Gunnar:  The key is to identify which parts are promoted as either "reference" or simply "good" implementation of each technology.  What already exists vs. what is missing from a complete stack ought to be described (use a diagram), and then broken down into development project for the missing parts.
    • Would a CVI Dev Kit help?
      • Gunnar: One way we often do this is develop the components, then produce a demo that integrates them all.  The demo should be placed in a combined repository (using appropriate technology such as references/git-submodules etc.)  
      • But if we can create a "dev kit" (with components, and documentations for how to integrate them) this is even more flexible.  
      Would a CVI Dev Kit help?
  • Are the already existing proposed (sub) projects appropriate for you?
    • VSS development project, W3C VISSv2
    • Is there any hindrance for you to participate in those existing proposed projects (GENIVI, W3C participation)
      • not a W3C member yet
  • Which technologies would you like to propose in the "agreed-upon" technology stack?
    • a more "binary" representation of requests in transport protocols instead of JSON (e.g CBOR, protobuf...)
      • Gunnar: +1.  This is a clear technology stack subproject.
    • best practice how to extend/widen/leverage VSS data model to a fully semantic digital twin for knowledge engineering in backend
    • DDS, MQTT, D-BUS, DAPR.IO, ...
      • Gunnar: Indeed these are additional  useful technologies.  Other stakeholders may also give their view on priorities.


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 [ ] Ted Guild Can you help out to link to W3C meeting information.  In particular I could only write "bi-weekly" but that does not specify exactly when.  A link to wiki or mailing list where invites are sent, will help.

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  • Scope does not include to define who has access data
  • Might be impacted by work by The Automotive Alliance?