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CVIS-status-2024-fall.pptx It is expected that all meeting participants have read the compliance statement. Every meeting will start with a reminder.Every meeting will start with appointment of note taker. Notes can be on-line, or off-line and if so mailed to moderator within 24 hours. Fair scheduling, i. CVIS-file-repoe. all should take turn. A reason for not taking it is if one expect to speak much at the meeting.
- Strive for making signal objects reusable by other signal specifications.
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- Compliance statement
- Welcome and agenda discussion - anything that needs to be added?
- Prioritized Topics:
- General topics:
- Open Pull Requests CVIS
- Issues CVIS
- Discussions CVIS
- Other
- Prioritized topics for next meeting
Meeting notes 2025-05-05
- Compliance statement
- Welcome and agenda discussion - anything that needs to be added?
- Prioritized Topics:
- HIM configurator updates
- Supports calling the vspec tool from both Linux and Windows
- vspec tool overlays supported
- overlays on instantiated nodes supported
- Overlays creator tool added
- Pick parts of tree from a YAML tree, apply to another tre using HIM configurator overlays.
- VSS-core2 added. Uses overlays/instantiation overlays.
- VSS-core uses Global / Local variation points.
- AMM short f2f meeting?
- Can we identify a suitable time?
- We meet Wednesday 13.30 at the room where Ulf will present "An Automotive API and Data Model that caters to all types of vehicles" at 14.00.
Meeting notes 2025-04-23
- Compliance statement
- Welcome and agenda discussion - anything that needs to be added?
- Prioritized Topics:
Traton presents ACEA PoC
- Postponed for next meeting
HIM configurator update
Overlays support
Make file usage removed
Meeting notes 2025-04-07
- Compliance statement
- Welcome and agenda discussion - anything that needs to be added?
- Prioritized Topics:
- Continue the Truck tree analysis.
- The discussion led to the understanding that any single signal is a potential candidate to be removed, and that there must be a practical solution to that. The VariationPoint feature can do it, but it is not a scalable solution if large numbers of signals needs to be removed.
- Different options were discussed, both subtractive (removal from VSS-core) and additive (pick from VSS-core).
- The discussion will continue, and hopefully different solutions will be proposed.
- Overview HIM configurator features.
- Review of the CVIS status AMM presentation (draft version).
- Ted: Regulatory signals
Meeting notes 2025-03-24
- Compliance statement
- Welcome and agenda discussion - anything that needs to be added?
- Prioritized Topics:
- HIM configurator generated Truck tree analysis
- AMM presentations
- "Status update of the Commercial Vehicle Information Specifications (CVIS) project" is scheduled 04:20 - 4:40pm on May 14
- "An Automotive API and Data Model that caters to all types of vehicles" is scheduled 02:00 - 2:25pm on May 14
- Paul: It is possible to have additional break-out meetings. Please consider the need for this until next meeting.
- Overview HIM configurator features
- HIM configurator syntax
- Sergej proposed that the vspec2 syntax is extended to support Google template syntax, thus enabling logic operations.
- Ulf proposed that this logic is implemented using any computer language in a tool that generates the JSON based input files to the HIM configurator, and keeps the "simpler" syntax in the vspec2 files.
- Both proposals can exist in parallel, they will lead to the same end result - configured signal trees in the formats set by the used VSS-tools exporters.
Meeting notes 2025-03-10
- Compliance statement
- Welcome and agenda discussion - anything that needs to be added?
- Prioritized Topics:
- Him configurator on Windows
- HIM configurator road map
- AMM presentation
- VSS-core - no compromises
- The VSS-core tree is vehicle type agnostic. The HIM configurator configures it into a vehicle specific tree.
- This concept is applicable to most vehicle types like Car, Truck, Bus, Van, etc.
Meeting notes 2025-02-24
- Compliance statement
- Welcome and agenda discussion - anything that needs to be added?
- Prioritized Topics:
- VSS-core analysis
- VSS-core analysis.pptx
- cvis.yaml
- Look at the cvis.yaml file for ideas on what can be "pruned". Create a PR directly on Github, or a list that we can discuss at next meeting.
Meeting notes 2025-02-10
- Compliance statement
- Welcome and agenda discussion - anything that needs to be added?
- Prioritized Topics:
- Tree partition proposal
- AMM presentation: PoC possible?
- Requires that any CVIS participant takes it on.
- The VISSR tech stack supports a setup like shown in the presented PPT requiring minimal additions.
- Paul: Links from FMS discussion with ACEA
Meeting notes 2025-01-27
- Compliance statement
- Welcome and agenda discussion - anything that needs to be added?
- Prioritized Topics:
- Continue the planning from meeting 241202
- AMM presentation? Deadline for draft/abstract March 15.
- Niklas: Will present some ideas on required signals: Commercial Vehicle data 20250127.pptx
Meeting notes 2025-01-13
- Compliance statement
- Welcome and agenda discussion - anything that needs to be added?
- Prioritized Topics:
- Continue the planning from last meeting
- Revisited the presentation from last meeting.
- Cut meeting short due to low participation.
Meeting notes 2024-12-02
- Compliance statement
- Welcome and agenda discussion - anything that needs to be added?
- Prioritized Topics:
- Retrospective and planning
- Focus on one trailer type initially?
- Align with existing trailer interface standards
- Leverage existing J1939 VSS mapping
- System design
- Experimentation
- Presentation of the above: CVIS-retrospect-design-experimentation.pptx
- Discussion to be continued at next meeting in January.
- Christmas recess
- Dec16 and Dec 30, back Jan 13
Meeting notes 2024-11-18
- Compliance statement
- Welcome and agenda discussion - anything that needs to be added?
- Prioritized Topics:
- Meeting cut short due to low participation
Meeting notes 2024-11-04
- Compliance statement
- Welcome and agenda discussion - anything that needs to be added?
- Prioritized Topics:
- VSS car tree vs CVIS truck tree.
- Arguments for a separate truck tree
- The HIM model supports to rename the root node so that selected parts of the tree can have identical paths with the VSS tree.
- The objects branch in CVIS facilitates a structured model for sharing common branches.
- Parts of the VSS tree does not relate well to Trucks, e.g. Axle/Wheel configuration.
- The HIM configurator provides features not available in VSS-tools, such as the assymmetric matrix configuration.
- Decision: We will continue the development of a separate Truck tree.
- The scenario where an app developed for passenger cars should also be deployable on a truck will be supported.
Meeting notes 2024-10-21
- Compliance statement
- Welcome and agenda discussion - anything that needs to be added?
- Prioritized Topics:
- Future of the meeting
- Volvo: sees interest in defining trees and also in using VISS. Still internal discussion.
- GM going through reorg, currently monitoring this group.
- Initial conclusion: We will continue the meeting series.
- use vsspathlist.json to vet the content of the Truck tree.
- Maybe not the right path forward, see question below.
- Should a truck use the VSS tree (Vehicle tree) instead of defining a separate tree?
- Trailer, Driver, etc. could be separate trees, but Truck should use the Vehicle tree (at least as much as is feasible).
- How to resolve major differencies, e. g. the axle/tire location definitions?
- Plan for how to create a first version Truck tree (trailer/bus?).
- VISSR updated with VISSv3.0 features now supports multiple trees, e. g. Truck tree plus Trailer tree(s).
Meeting notes 2024-09-09
- Compliance statement
- Welcome and agenda discussion - anything that needs to be added?
- Prioritized Topics:
- use vsspathlist.json to vet the content of the Truck tree.
- Cargo location - to be continued.
- Example scenario of a truck being loaded?
- Next meeting sept 23 is cancelled as it is the same week as the AMM.
- Todays meeting was cut short due to low participation.
Meeting notes 2024-08-26
- Compliance statement
- Welcome and agenda discussion - anything that needs to be added?
- Prioritized Topics:
- Clarification cargo type and cargo location.
- Type: A proposal on howto differentiate between types of trucks (most other features common, but cargo type differs.)
- Location: A discussion about how to create a common terminology for cargo location.
- Data recorder/Driver data
- HIM configurator demo.
- Other
- Review AMM presentation draft
Meeting notes 2024-08-12
- Compliance statement
- Welcome and agenda discussion - anything that needs to be added?
- Prioritized Topics:
- Proposal on new domain structure built on Cargo variations.
- Wally: No formal standardization today. Tire as location reference. Three levels, 6 "doors", compartments. Fleets interested to discuss this. TMC f2f mid Sept. We should try to come up with proposals.
- CVIS issues
- Data recorder/Driver data
- Tech stack example for driver recorder use case. HIM config tree added after the meeting. Ulf to explain in next meeting.
- Truck/Driver trees contain metadata for the represented signals, actual (transient) data is in the state storage data buffer. Driver recorder unit may contain data from multiple drivers. How represent these multiple "driver instances" in the data model?
- Driver recorder specific data (type, version, time-to-calibration, etc) should be represented in the Truck tree.
- HIM configurator demo. Moved to next meeting.
- Other
- Status update presentation at the AMM
- Will be presented at the CV expert group presentation on Wed. Ted will sync it.
- Ulf create first proposal.
Meeting notes 2024-07-15
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