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Historical note: the minutes for the previous project, the CVII Tech Stack, can be found here: CVII Technology Stack meeting notes
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25th June 2025
Agenda:
- Continue the work on the use-case examples / planning
- AoB
Minutes:
18th June 2025
Agenda:
- Continue the work on the use-case examples / planning
- AoB
Minutes:
- Meeting closed early as there was low attendance.
- Homework is to consider use-case work.
- Steve is working on the COVESA presentation for the Apache Summit
- Ulf reported he is working on a Vehicle API solution
11th June 2025
Agenda:
- Continue planning discussions begun last week
- Short term: Remaining work on KL/IL, in progress work on feeders etc.
- Longer term: Example build-out, AI, Doc etc. Also topics from the workshop
- Planning page: 2025 Spring to Autumn task planning
- Review CDSP use-case action item: After Berlin AMM CDSP workshop
- Ulf/Rami proposal
- AoB
Minutes:
- Short term
- The Apache IoTDB community has asked Steve to present at their upcoming Summit in China about CDSP and its use of IoTDB in automotive.
- Longer term
- Use-cases After Berlin AMM CDSP workshop
- Steve presented some detail he added to the Insurance use-case proposal
- Rami outlined some ideas for a fuel management use-case Use case 2: Fuel management for fleet efficiency
- Ulf/Rami presented a proposal for fleet management using VISSR.
- Vehicle2Cloud handled by cloud component "Fleet Communication Manager" which manages VISS Clients that "pull" from VISS Server running in the vehicle
- The Playground Knowledge Server is proposed to decide what signals to read from the fleet.
- Christian showed interest
- Presentation:
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4th June 2025
Agenda:
- Continue planning discussions begun last week
- Short term: Remaining work on KL/IL, in progress work on feeders etc.
- Longer term: Example build-out, AI, Doc etc. Also topics from the workshop
- Planning page: 2025 Spring to Autumn task planning
- Review CDSP use-case action item: After Berlin AMM CDSP workshop
- AoB
Minutes:
- Short term
- Christian reports that some of the feedback Steve reported about the Knowledge Server has been fixed but not yet pushed.
- He has some questions about a couple of the points. As the list was posted in a github issue it was decided we can discuss there.
- Once Steve has caught up with post AMM work he will look at the user documentation and CAN feeders
- Longer term
- Rami posted some input on the planning page.
- Christian introduced his logical apsect categories in the workshop page. General agreement its a great start and comprehension.
- He explains whilst the use-cases are important and should be realistic, the central goal is to use them to identify needs and solutions.
- Steve suggests some brief explanation of some of the categories may be needed to make them clearer as we go.
- Discussion about various PoC work that is ongoing. Data Arch team can continue, but in parallel there are opportunities at higher level with other groups.
- Ulf suggests that it would be good to use some use-cases to drive discussion of the categories.
- Ted says the commercial vehicle artifacts could be an input to some use cases.
- Work for next time:
- Read categories in the workshop table to check for agreement and any gaps. Christian suggested adding AOSP row.
- Consider use-cases. As a start they do not need to be perfect. Point is to use them to check the work.
28th May 2025
Agenda:
- Continue planning discussion with a view to working towards concrete task backlog/roadmap
- Short term: Remaining work on KL/IL, in progress work on feeders etc.
- Longer term: Example build-out, AI, Doc etc. Also topics from the workshop
- Planning page: 2025 Spring to Autumn task planning
- AoB
Minutes:
- Christian has drafted some possible topics for the first workshop After Berlin AMM CDSP workshop
- Discussion of encouraging collaboration and CDSP adoption. Extending the online doc with focused areas from the viewpoint of different tasks, e.g. interfacing feeders, or roles, e.g. knowledge engineer should help
- Short term
- Christian has cleaned up the KL/IL tickets on the Kanban board
- Discussion of some of the low hanging fruit and work already started (MCP server, CAN feeders, sync)
- Longer term
- Rami: MongoDB can share some recent work with customers
- Discussion of examples/patterns/use-cases
- AI: agreement that each of us will consider the logical things to be considered to construct succesful use-cases. For example, what adapters might be needed between layers. In this way the goal is both the demonstrator and the problems to be tackled or illustrated to get there.
21st May 2025
Agenda:
- Spring AMM: feedback and any conversations that people had that feeds into the work
- Planning discussion with a view to working towards concrete task backlog/roadmap
- Short term: Remaining work on KL/IL, in progress work on feeders etc.
- Longer term: Example build-out, AI, Doc etc. Also topics from the workshop
Input:
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- Summer dev strategy
- What do people want to work on and why? What is achievable and what is a stretch?
- Touchpoints – suggests longer chains
- What, why: smart use of resources, maintenance, showing integration versus stacks
- Examples in general
- Backlog for strengthening 'core'
- Is the idea of a 'core' still useful or is it simply reference compose combinations? If former when is something 'core'?
- Supporting VSS-next investigations
- AI connectors
- LLM data store abstractions, e.g. MCP
- Semantic Reasoning abstractions, e.g. Hybrid queries
- Enhancements to documentation to ease development
- Look and feel. Ease of navigation
- The UX template we are using is deprecated. Move to Hextra?
- Integration
- Feeder connection guide
- Server connection guide
- KL, IL relationship (connections?) to VISS/VISSR
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- Goal: In the next 1-2 weeks determine work backlog for the next 6 month cycle. Ideally leading to a task list.
- Short term:
- KL/IL
- Update KL/IL existing tasks in Kanban.
- Identify and record (in Kanban?) new short term tasks
- Complete/cleanup tasks, e.g. doc gaps and building KL/IL using reference docker compose
- Short term improvements, e.g. remaining review comments. The directory naming etc.
- Sync discussion with IoTDB community
- Longer term (need decisions about what is short and long, i.e. priorities - none exchaustive list for discussion)
- Growing examples
- What are the major gaps to adoption?
- Ease of development improvements to Doc so people can understand, use and integrate to the Playground
- AI adapters
- Data modelling
- Sync
- Streaming
- VISS adapters
Minutes:
- AMM
- Rami:
- Discussion with Ulf about V2Cloud transfer PoC at the AMM
- Christian:
- Short term:
- Christian will complete the clean up tasks for KL/IL
- Longer term:
- Discussion of the challenges of topic selection. Such as different viewpoints and goals of wider participants. Can either dilligently advance topics on slack and working between the calls, or need workshops to really advance plans. There is recognisition that workshops help people block time.
- Christian and Rami discussed ideas related to the cloud area. Christian wonders about timeseries there.
- Christian agrees using the AMMs as a stretch of planning is a natural way to approach it. Final delivery of something at the AMM might not be primary goal.
- Homework for next week is to consider nature of possible workshop topics: What is the goal etc.
- Christian talks about Eclipse SDV Blueprints, which leads into discussion about the CDSP Examples which is the CDSP counterpart
- Steve reminds about the prior discussions (see around 20th March 2024 in minutes) relating to improving the CDSP online doc site with getting started guides and a new Hugo theme (Hextra was a leading candidate). Including the simple mock-up he did.
- Discussion about possible improvements.
- Steve will distribute links on Slack.
- Steve will add a confluence page to gather ideas and proposals as comments on slack will disappear after 90 days.
14th May 2025
No meeting due to Spring AMM in Berlin
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