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  • Philippe reports the outcome of the two calls he had with Automat project participants last week
    • Renault participant on Wed 31 July
    • Automat cybersecurity WP lead (from Trialog) on Tue 30 July (A,ntonio)
  • call wirh Renault
    • VW had the biggest budget share in the automat project (up to 25%)

    • the VW team involved was from the After Sales division (not from the R&D) and had a very short term vision of their needs

    • VW interest was on what happened in the vehicle before a failure using histograms, because they wanted to minimize the telecom costs for data transmission and therefore the quantity of data transmitted

    • there were actually two competing approaches for the vehicle data telemetry in the automat project: histograms for VW vs time series for Renault and Fiat (CRF Fiat R&D), the time series approach consisted in transmitting as many raw data as possible and processing them offline with big computers

    • At the beginning of the project, HERE proposed to use the Sensoris approach for gathering vehicle data but there was nothing like histograms in Sensoris and this approach was not investigated further

    • Renault did a proof-of-concept using a dongle to gather the data, VW and CRF decided to use existing ECUs (CRF used an existing TCU (communication box)

    • At the end of the project the OEMs decided not to continue.

  • call with Trialog
  • Conclusion on automat
    • Philippe's personal conclusion is that we have looked enough into Automat, unless we have an indication that Autosar will eventually use Automat CVIM as an input to their Cloud Services WG work, we in GENIVI should focus on Sensoris and VSS and ISO ExVe, we will also coordinate with Autosar on this

    • call participants agree

    • Guru: said he will look further into requirements for histograms as defined by automat and check what was not supported in Sensoris
    • However the work done in automat on cybersecurity is good and relates to a big data architecture, Philippe recommends the GENIVI security team to review it and amend it w.r.t. US NIST work and extract possibly use cases to benchmark the MoRa tool

  • Additional information (for Kevin and others)

2- Gap analysis deliverable: document owner and contributors, table of content update

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