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SDV Telemetry Project - On Hold |
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Agenda:
Participants
Kevin V, Keith, Ted, Ulf, Gunnar, Philippe
Minutes
value measurement formats - review
Gunnar: thanks for your very good feedback
Gunnar: the container is some kind of top level messaging format
Gunnar: I tried to work out a type hierarchy with subtypes
Gunnar: we should think that the content of the wiki page comes down to a generic protocol definition that could be instantiated into several actual protocol specifications
Gunnar: the W3C Gen 2 protocol might not take over all the facets of the generic procotol as it is defined there, but if we can align on some definitions and naming with W3C it would be good
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formatting layer in the proof-of-concept
Ulf: the formatting layer is not visible in the vehicle, if the Gen 2 client sits in the cloud, this will sit on top of the client
Ulf: Gen 2 is agnostic w.r.t. where the client is deployed, the client could be in the vehicle or the cloud, in the CCS PoC the client is in the cloud
Ulf: I ambition this formatting layer to sit in the cloud in the CCS PoC
Ulf: concerning jobs, there could be specific jobs where you have some particular logic to implement (TBC likely not captured accurately, Ulf Bjorkengren please check)
Ted: I also see a gen2 client app residing on vehicle and *pushing* data samples to the cloud, I see more of push than a pull, this is an equally viable architecture
Ulf: agreed, design choice might depend on the data (transmission) cost (TBC likely not captured accurately, Ulf Bjorkengren please check)
Gunnar: for the push scenario, will that be using the set function ?
Ted: I would rahter use the subscribe function (TBC likely not captured accurately, Gunnar Andersson please check)
discussion on how to use Gen2
Gunnar: I try to determine if we can solve the use case with the current Gen2 or with an extension of it, set might not be appropriate today
@Ulf: you are driving the strategy for feature growth in Gen2, would you propose the support of time series in Gen2 ?
Ulf: yes, I would, it is relevant but perhaps not as an integrated part of Gen2, my view is that it should be outside Gen2
Ted: for the push scenario, look at https://www.w3.org/XML/EXI/, this technique can work for both XML and JSON, this technique is used for the management of large data distribution (e.g. for a fleet of vehicles)
authentication in the proof-of-concept
Keith: I have a question about the authentication, we did not discussed this yet
Keith: we need to discuss how to update the authentication info, I have in mind the use case of the service garage
Gunnar: we need to check whether the proposed architecture should be enhanced to take into account the service garage use case
Gunnar: this has to do actually with the role-based protocol discussed in W3C; in W3C it is assumed currently that the access to data is granted based on a role
Gunnar: in W3C work, by transport protocol we think at something like TLS, you have a certificate checked in TLS to certify you are accessing a certified OEM cloud
Keith: it might be worth documenting the assumptions
/TODO/ Gunnar to update
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graphql schema example
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