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- Agenda discussion - anything that needs to be added?
- Prioritized Topics:
- Decision on old open PRs
- Open Pull Requests VSS
- Open Pull Requests VSS-Tools
- Issues VSS
- Issues VSS-Tools
- Discussions VSS
- Discussions VSS-tools
- Prioritized topics for next meeting
Meeting notes 2025-07-01
Meeting notes 2025-06-24
- VSS 5.1 release - see https://github.com/COVESA/vehicle_signal_specification/issues/815
- Decision: OK to include all current master changes in 5.1
- If we are to create a 5.1 soon - anything critical to include
- Erik to create release candidate this week
- Erik away next week
- X.Y.Z.V.W, Segments like V.W with two branches should be unqiue
- Issue cleanup to be done
- of older non-changed issues
Meeting notes 2025-06-17
Meeting notes 2025-06-10
- Martin Novak (NXP) → usage of VSS in NXP, using vss and data broker.
- PR 824, has to be clarified.
- Why changing datatype from float to uint32?
- Can we handle unit change differently?
- For BMW this would be breaking change on prod system.
- Same as well for Ford.
- Issue 830
Meeting notes 2025-06-03
- Erik away next week. Adnan to host the meeting.
Meeting notes 2025-05-27
Meeting notes 2025-05-20
Meeting notes 2025-05-06
- AMM Next week
- No VSS meeting next week (May 13th)
- DEG cancelled next week
- Possibly others as well
- If you have sessions to the AMM please upload them to drive on link provided by Paul
- ACEA 42
- Data Arch Team
- Stephen: Ai Semantic Reasoning, can define rules in knowledge layer, there will be a session at the AMM
Meeting notes 2025-04-22
- Capabilities
- Paul to have PR ready next week.
- AMM:
- Paul: Does anyone have any questions?
Meeting notes 2025-04-15
- Capabilities
- Paul presented work on seating, will create a pull request
Meeting notes 2025-04-08
- AMM
- Erik presented intended content for VSS Working Sessions, see Weekly Agenda and Meeting Notes
- (Additional) catalog trees as potential extra topic, possibly better discussed at a later AMM
- Ulf could possibly present something on related work CVI.
Meeting notes 2025-04-01
- Information/Discussion: EU Battery pass and VSS relationship
- Modelling Language
Meeting notes 2025-03-25
- Profiles
- Location - description in vss or vss-tools?
- Sebastian Schildt:
- Thinks vss is a good place, could be a new section on top level
- Fits into overlay, but possibly rename
- Erik: Overlay is a mechanism to realize profiles
- S: Overlay are for two purposes, one is to compose models, one is to add additional attributes
- Paul: Profiles are extensions that some members agree on.
- Daniel: VSS_project offer model language and tooling as one artifact, then also catalog as artifact. We need to include this also in model.
- Sebastian: Profiles are now mostly handled as examples, not really model or catalog.
- Daniel: Checks should better be done by vss-tools
- Erik: Please review https://github.com/COVESA/vss-tools/pull/445, continued discussion next week.
- Commercial Vehicle Profiles
- Capability-dicussions in COVESA
- Daniel: What is status
- Paul: Discussion on seating ongoing, tables on wiki, Capabilities Project - Seating Capabilities
- D: How will COVESA formalize it?
- E: Changing VSS catalog is easy, maybe more important to discuss what model changes that better would be needed. To be discussed at the AMM.
- P: Ongoing discussion in IFEX project
- P: Will schedule a time for discussing what to do with the capabilties
Meeting notes 2025-03-11
- Continued profile discussion
- https://github.com/COVESA/vss-tools/pull/440
- https://github.com/COVESA/vss-tools/issues/436
- Input from Ford (Podalakuru, Chaitanya (C.) )
- Daniel: COVESA can provide tooling and some fields
- Sunil: Toyota Connected, London
- Interested in CAN-signal mapping
- Keep scaling internal
- Can show next time
- Stefan: For a specific use-case there need to be consent
- Paul: Would be good to describe what would be common, to work on together
- StefaN: For accident, define what would be common dataset.
- P: What are you from Ford looking for, what is the actual gap in VSS.
- C: If we can agree on schema, that would be great. Will discuss with team
- C. Expect for example a schema for cyber security, would make it easy to switch between suppliers.
- D: Schema/Syntax mechanism can be incorporated in tooling, content outside scope. Then we can see if concept is strong enough to represent some common concepts.
- C: Can come up with profile, we can review, then check if additional validation is needed
- AMM
- P: Working on agenda
- E: Profiles will be mentioned
- Capabilities
- P: Would be good to bring to this meeting. Possibly Paul or Melissa doing first presentation.
- P: What we have observed and what we want to do.
Meeting notes 2025-03-04
- Discussion on profiles (see https://github.com/COVESA/vss-tools/issues/436)
- Discussion on CAN signal mapping as example
- FYI Paul Boyes
- Link to presented document: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kFKMvsYzXVaNe5kP_faShfQ6ZwJyCY0s/view?pli=1
- Erik presented https://github.com/COVESA/vss-tools/pull/440/files
- Ted: Possibly use unique identifiers, keep clean and organized. Commercial Vehicles have some overlays, value check needed
- Adnan: Think idea is great. We also have our own profiles, for CAN and SOME/IP, can possible open some of them.
- A: Governance - only structure, or also content?
- A: Common way to describe profile first step
- E: Would be good to see what types of profiles members are interested in, like CAN, SOME/IP, safety, security, relationships
- A: relationships: do they fit into VSS as profile? Is overlay perfect spot?
- Ted: Conditional logic shall not be written as text, there is open ticket in CV to make complex logic
- Video in VSS - https://github.com/COVESA/vehicle_signal_specification/issues/816
- Ted: Presented the issue. Could be used for insurance and fleet use-cases
- Ted: Wants to involve member companies using video
- E: Metadata/commands only? Not video streams itself?
- E: We have metadata for other areas like media,so not significantly different.
- AMM
- If you have proposals contact Paul Boyes
- Profiles could be discussed in a session.
- VSS Explorer
Meeting notes 2025-02-25
Meeting notes 2025-02-11
- AMM Registration open
- If you have proposals for presentations please add to wiki
- Think of VSS-specific discussions
- Collection - Issue
- Erik away next week (Paul also away)
- For now assumed Sebastian Schildt can lead it.
Meeting notes 2025-02-04
- Seat Capability Topic
- A set of COVESA OEM members have discussed how seats better shall be represented in VSS
- Paul: How to propose/introduce changes
- Ulf: Smaller additions could be PR, larger better be discussed as issue first
- Paul: Will discuss with them
- Stephen: For older items we may not know how downstream projects are using it, maybe mention it in communication channels.
Meeting notes 2025-01-28
- There is an AOSP meeting on Thursday, please join if you are interested
- Link in COVESA public calendar
- DEG
- Decided to have it every second week onwards, try to be more specific on topic
- I.e. no meeting this week
Meeting notes 2025-01-21
- AMM May 12-15?, Berlin, Germany
- Public program likely 13th-15th
- Input/Proposals for presentations welcome
- Possibility for technical workshop data
- Think if there are any topics you want us to discuss, related to VSS or other COVESA areas, like EU Data Act
Meeting notes 2025-01-14
- Paul:
- Aligning capabilities discussion (seating) with VSS
- should have a discussion/alignment with larger VSS community once capabilities team feels they have reached a good state for discussion
- AOSP data work stream is starting up (AOSP/VHAL/VSS relation)
- Initial meeting will be scheduled, probably end of next week. Paul will distribute information over the usual channels
- Some feedback and questions (how to use it) gathered at CES (e.g. Foxconn)
- Issues and PRs:
- please review open PRs
- GraphQL Exporter modifications still red in CI
Meeting notes 2024-12-17
- New Meeting slot proposal - see slack
- Paul: Would moving it to 30 minutes earlier work
- Ian: Would be a little bit difficult
- Daniel: Would be nice if moved, but if not I need to manage, we can keep the same time for now and decide in January.
- Erik: If we keep same time we can occasionaly have it earlier to allow for Daniel to participate longer
- VSS name restructure
- Next meeting Jan 14th
- Introducing Orhun
- Presenting how VSS statistics can be presented
- Meeting liked the general idea
Meeting notes 2024-12-10
- Issue https://github.com/COVESA/vehicle_signal_specification/issues/790
- Winter holiday
- No discussion needed for Dec 24th, Dec 31st
- Keep Dec 17th - but keep it short
- Skip 7th Jan 2025
- General Time of meeting
- Daniel: Could we make it earlier
- Paul: Could be difficult for US west coast
- Erik: We have CVI right after
- Paul to create proposal or poll or something
Meeting notes 2024-12-03
- Wiki refactored: https://github.com/COVESA/vehicle_signal_specification/wiki
- DEG-Android Data Collection
- Paul will put details in Slack in case anyone is interested
- Stefan: I have been pushed for data adoption
- Stephen: I posted a proposal on slack for generating a DB schema, referencing VSS Database Schema Generator
- feedback welcome
- Working assumption, use vss-tools, create another perspective
Meeting notes 2024-11-26
Meeting notes 2024-11-19
- GraphQL discussion (15 minutes)
- Github docs
- Wiki-pages - https://github.com/COVESA/vehicle_signal_specification/wiki
- Some of them quite outdated - which makes it difficult to read
- Proposal: Delete old layers and struct pages
- FAQ - Anyone interested in contributing? Or integrate into documentation?
- Paul: We should keep it and flesh it out.
- Stephen: Possible changing headers in the sidebar so that it is not flat. May be valuable to keep.
- AP: Erik to check if it is possible to have a different sidebar or arrange pages differently
Meeting notes 2024-11-12
- Decision on old PRs (from 2023)
- What to do with old issues
Meeting notes 2024-11-05
- PRs/Issues
- Old PRs (from 2023)
- Erik propose to close them if no progress is planned
- Stephen: If close add a positive stamenet, like "You are welcome to reopen on progress)
- To be further discussed next week
Meeting notes 2024-10-29
Meeting notes 2024-10-22
- Vehicle Motion PR- https://github.com/COVESA/vehicle_signal_specification/pull/785
- Daniel (BMW): Relationship to ISO standard
- Markus: Based on ISO8855 where relevant
- Sebastian Schildt: Intended use-cases
- Traction control, autonomous driving
- Sebastian: Could possibly be overlay
- Erik: Signals in PR today added to a separate subbranch Vehicle.MotionManagement.
- Daniel: we need to tackle that instancea are repeated
- Daniel: Are all datastreams, so data will change during driving
- Matthias: All changing, sensor used for feedback channel, no attributes
- Discussion on duality of sensor/actuator.
- Daniel: If we allow different signals for target/current value - we need to consider it also for other areas.
- erik: please review and discuss internally, continued discussion next meeting.
- Ulf: VISSR - File transfer - try to generate binary file from catalog with struct
- Erik: You need to specify that the exporter support types
Meeting notes 2024-10-15
Meeting notes 2024-10-01
- VSS RC https://github.com/COVESA/vehicle_signal_specification/releases/tag/v5.0rc0
- Give comments comments before end of this week
- Erik to create official release next week
- AMM thoughts
- Erik: Showed slides from wrapup session
- Presentations: COVESA All Member Meeting ~ September 25-26, 2024
- Paul: VSS to Android mapping, interest in AOSP group to revisit that
- Paul: How does camera data fit with VSS was mentioned
- Erik: Historical approach - VSS solutions (like VISS, Kuksa) not suited for streaming data like camera
- Stefan: Does not be videos, can be stream of objects like obstacles, could be input to VSS
- Erik: There have been in discussions in the past to support events in VSS, but no majority in favor at that time.
- Next AMM (Spring 2025) planned for Milan, Italy, dates still uncertain
Meeting notes 2024-09-17
- No meeting next week (AMM)
- VSS-tools 5.0
- Review "Release Blockers"
- Code freeze OK after that?
- If so - goal to create Release Candidate end of this week
Meeting notes 2024-09-10
- VSS-tools 5.0 (pre-release)
- Object Detection
- Stefan SellSchopp - VSS - AOSP discussions ongoing
Meeting notes 2024-09-03
- Regular
- VSS PR
- VSS-Tools PR
- VSS Issues
- VSS-Tools Issues
- VSS Discussions
- VSS (tools) 5.0 release - pre-release
- Need for 4.2.1 release - see https://github.com/COVESA/vss-tools/pull/397
- Formatting Proposal (Adnan)
Meeting notes 2024-08-27
ApiGear intro by Siili Auto (https://github.com/COVESA/vss-tools/pull/391) - merged
VSS-tools:
- https://github.com/COVESA/vss-tools/pull/395 : Prerequisite for a good way of removing vss-tools submodule, (and general quality-of-life improvement for binary users)
Meeting notes 2024-08-20
APIgear Intro will be NEXT meeting (27th)
VSS-Tools
- merged core rework: Let's see what the fallout is, if any https://github.com/COVESA/vss-tools/pull/382
VSS
Meeting notes 2024-08-13
VSS-spec
- PR 755, approved by Sebastian and merged.
- PR 761, merged.
VSS-Tools
- PR 391,
- looks good, comments are being addressed
- waiting for SebastianS approval
- https://github.com/COVESA/vss-tools/pull/382
Slack link has to be updated every 3 months.
https://join.slack.com/t/covesacommunity/shared_invite/zt-2mqg9h79y-GCer3TsNgSddodjcM3qh9w
Notes: Next meeting topic "APIGear Introduction". 15-20min
Meeting notes 2024-08-06
- Availability of maintainers for meetings August
- Erik on vacation rest of August
- Is some other maintainer (Adnan Bekan , Sebastian Schildt ) possibly available, or do we need to cancel? (13,20,27)
- Sebastian: Could do 20th and 27th
- Adnan: I can cover 13th, can discuss the other two
- VSS/AMM Workshop
- Paul will work with proposed agenda
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