Meeting Minutes

11 October, 2023 at AMM

• • Business track
  • Technical track
    • Overview
    • Consent Intro (TG, not presented)
    • Consent Management - Niclas Gyllenram (PowerPoint)

25 September, 2023

• • COVESA AMM track (2h tech track, plus a bit on business) - title, abstract, presenter name 
    • Overview/recap and example sampling config
    • EV range prediction and start of representation in sampling config
    • ETAS PoC 
    • Consent management AiDEN
  • EV range prediction artifacts
    • Map provider needed - Google, HERE, OSM - Open Geospatial Consortium (OGC)? / W3C Spatial Data on the Web
  • Represent sampling - time, distance, event, other. SOSA/SSN (ontology and too complex) 
  • Privacy/Consent - ambitious but we have a number of pieces and opportunity
    • Explicitly which data points will be collected (CV BoF in VSS) 
    • How they will be used (again CV BoF. use cases are the start of purpose for GDPR). We will use constants for names of use cases as some pertain to multiple signals in order to avoid being too repetitive, side benefit is this can be useful for localization (accommodating descriptions in other languages) 
    • Who is collecting the data and how to revoke consent, who is easy and can add entity name or URI to the VSS overlays in CV BoF and same for revokation interface URI. Would need to research if there are any standards around consent and revokation APIs or if this is something AiDEN is willing to propose.
    • A common interface in the vehicle to interact with driver to capture consent - AOSP activity in COVESA and if generalized enough can by used on QNX and other OS instead of Android specific but worth going for the lower hanging fruit of an Android solution. 
    • AOSP activity with decent energy at COVESA, CV BoF also off to a good start
    • VSS/VHAL mapping in AA prototype was completed, interest in making VSS more central/prominent in AOSP
    • Some OEM are reluctant to provide rich data to the head unit and AA, that's fine we can simply capture consent and the data sampling campaign can be triggered to act on that on a TCU
    • AiDEN's platform includes consent management for Android Automotive platform, it impressed as being well thought out, intuitive, crisp UI that well informs the individual
    • We would need to convey consent was captured either by current driver (who could remain anonymous), owner and driver was informed that consent is explicit and immutable by operator, data will be collected and their recourse if they disagree is to contact owner and not operate the vehicle. What is sent to the data back end would need to be defined. In W3C Auto Working Group a PhD student and his prof have come up with a "sticky policy" to capture this, maybe too complicated for OEM who would prefer to keep it simple.
      Strong industry need to handle privacy, has EU OEM tied in knots
  • Open issues from Github

11 September, 2023

• • Ford EV Range Prediction Team presents
    • Recording, Slides
    • Research performed at Ford under an EU grant to come up with Correction Factors (CF) based on in-vehicle observations and various external factors (weather, road conditions, altitude changes etc)
    • Data sampling campaign can utilize the conventions for collecting EV specific data that is being proposed in the CV BoF
    • Discussion on merits, interest to prove out
    • Resources (algorithms, data collection techniques used, etc) can readily be opened as the EU research is intended to be public
    • Agreement to align efforts
  • Github repo created, issues created
  • Desire to switch from bi-weekly to weekly cadence

28 August, 2023

• • Introductions
    • Attendees: Thomas Sprechley (ETAS), Paul Boyes (COVESA), Pierre Pierre Blais (BlackBerry), Ted Guild (Geotab), Sven Jeroschewski (Bosch), Sri Palacharla(GM), Melissa Morris(Ford), Richard Fernandes(GM), Jeff Reid(Google)
  • How we'll work
    • Spreadsheet as an initial convenience
    • All deliverables and issues should be in github, repo requested
    • Major announcements to group mailing list, conversations and heads up in slack
  • Outline or proposed work
    • CV signals list with VSS data points being mapped
    • Overlay in YAML, seeking input on sampling conventions
      • review with Data Expert Group
      • assess and if needed amend vss-tools for additional node parameters 
    • Need for at least rudimentary vehicle edge calculations 
  • Open to additional topics to explore
    • Additional signal sampling campaigns that can follow these conventions, speaking with EV range prediction this week

15 August, 2023

• • Kickoff meeting

  • Slides, Meeting Video