This page intends to contain the agenda for next meeting and notes from previous meeting.
General Agenda
- Welcome and Compliance statement
Welcome to the COVESA Common Vehicle Interfaces Meeting!
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Agenda discussion - anything that needs to be added?
- Prioritized Topics:
- Capabilities - create a list of common vehicle capabilities/function to be expose via api
- IFEX (Interface Exchange) - a general interface description and transformation technology
- uServices - definition of common vehicle services usimg protobuf as the interface definition language
- Vehicle Signal Specification over Data Distributiion Service
- Vehical Information Service Specification (VISS) - a service for accessing vehicle information, signals from sensors on control units within a vehicle's network. It exposes this information using COVESA Vehicle Signal Specification (VSS).
- Vehicle API - will expose vehicle data as defined and described by COVESA's Vehicle Signal Specification to a variety of agreed upon touch-points in and out of the vehicle
- Hierarchical Information Model (HIM)
- Interface Blueprint
Agenda 2024-12-17
- IFEX license update - TST agree license change ok
- vsomeip - Continental - Asked when vsomeip meeting is
- ACEA - FMS - Scheduled Feb 6
- Liaison agreement under discussion
- IFEX
- Meetings cancelled on Dec 23 and 30.
- Next meeting Jan 14
Agenda 2024-12-10
- EU Data Act Project
- IFEX Dev Meeting
- Reviewed current codebase
- How to organize
- Make it easier to understand
- Cleanup
- How and where to contribute
- AI: Setup next meeting - after New Year, Wednesday 4pm CET
- AI: Get feedback on license change
- Capabilities
- ACEA
- 6 european truck manufacturers looking for in vehicle api. Ready to elaborate
- Request to setup a Liaison Agreement regarding FMS in vehicle api
- Type of membership needed?
- How to proceed
- Reuse fleet management
- AI: create charter - (Look at Commercial Vehicle EG charter) Achim, Paul
Agenda 2024-12-03
- IFEX Dev Meeting is tomorrow December4 at 7am PT / 4pm CET
- IFEX Web viewer repo
- Waiting for update from DEG chairs
- IFEX Licensing
- Preferred to get community interest
- MPL 2.0 not clear on generated code - in other words generated code could be protected under license.
- Apache appears to be the desired license of some
- AI: Paul to make a request to the community for feedback
- IFEX Update
- EU Data act proposal
- Automotive API
- Ulf was asked to join next Thursday's meeting to discuss VISS 3
- AUTOSAR release event on Dec 5.
- Data Exchange Platform
- Presented in Commercial Vehicle meeting. Got some feedback.
- Action Item: Please provide feedback
- Swen discussed with MS for prototype. There are potentially funds available.
- MS working with Eclipse SDV
- Playground - CDSP
- Knowledge layer work continuing
- Capabilities - Seat
- VISS - v3.0
- On time plan/path to be feature complete at end of year
- IFEX/ ARXML translater
- Setting up repo like Automotive API
Agenda 2024-11-26
- IFEX Dev - meeting date/time - December 4 at 7am PT / 4pm CET
- VISS
- Still on track to release version 3 by May AMM
- Achim/Bosch to define and clarify performance measurements and requirements
- Commercial Vehicles
- FMS in vehicle API requirements
- Action Item: Paul Boyes to reachout to Steve Crumb regarding adding Standardization to Board Agenda in Dec.
- IFEX
- Logo previews coming - continuing the design
- IFEX web viewer
- Propose to publish a binary in npm package format with different maintainers - IFEX Viewer
- Web browser viewer - shows different layers
- Action Item Paul Boyes to send request for review of IFEX Viewer repository
- What is he license?
- The quickest way is likely MIT
- Action Item: Request comment/decision IFEX license change when ready. IFEX license change may be proposed
- VSS Viewer in the past aside or in addtion to playground.digital.auto?
- In VISS v2 there was a simple viewer
- Capabilities overview
- SDV Alliance - Status?
Agenda 2024-11-19
- IFEX Dev - meeting date/time
- Data Exchange Platform
- Architecture
- When do we need to map to an architecture?
- What will it look like
- 2 types of apis were discussed: data and service
- Commercial Vehicles
- rFMS refers j1939 - how does the ip align?
- Achim to send email to Tim from SAE to ask.
Agenda 2024-11-12
- ARXML<>IFEX
- There is a path forward with AUTOSAR.
- IFEX
- Capabilities
- Update
- Question as to whether an API is being designed at this point
- Answer - No...Aligning OEMs are aligning on Seating Capability
Agenda 2024-11-05
- ACEA (FMS)
- Liaison agreement - Achim to sent email
- To work with Commercial Vehicle Expert Group
- IFEX dev meeting request to interested parties and GM, Volvo, and others
- IFEX
- ARXML <> IFEX
- Meeting in AUTOSAR evaluating working model. Gunnar to provide status next week.
- Capabilities Project
Agenda 2024-10-29
Agenda 2024-10-22
- ARXML to IFEX - Mikael Nicklas Hoeret and Pinglei
- Should we start a IFEX development group meeting
- Yes - Paul to send out message to interested parties.
- Capabilities project with OEMs moving forward
Agenda 2024-10-15
- ARXML Interoperability Introduction
- Summary of TST review of API Design and Standardization
Agenda 2024-10-08
Agenda 2024-10-01
- AMM and Workshop Review/Outcomes
- Brief discussion of Capabilities project
Agenda 2024-09-10
- IFEX update presentation from Gunnar next week.
- Workshop Agenda to go out tonight.
Agenda 2024-09-03
- Data Marketplace
- presentation
- Standardization
- Drafting and SAE compliant layout
- Easiest path to start. Can leverage moving to intl orgs
- How will this affect current VSS work?
- IFEX update presentation from Gunnar next week.
Agenda 2024-08-27
- VISS Status
- CVIS
- IFEX
- Nothing new on GitHub
- Connecting with AUTOSAR
- Web viewer still a work in progress
- Central Data Service Playground
- Committed the extended data processing capabilities with example of advance data reduction
- Silli Auto - APIGear presented in VSS will present here as well if desired
- API Standardization
- finalize "API-standardization charter V1.0" : Proposed Charter
- Review and Comment on API Standardization - Presentation
- Technical Summit/Workshop
- AMM
- Data Marketplace
- present to this group next week
- Reverse Geolocation API
- Opportunity to work with Google
- Capabilities
- vsomeip
Agenda 2024-08-20
- VISS Status
- IFEX
- Synch up with people doing web viewer
- Hope to kick of AUTOSAR stuff too
- Learning how to develop and open source with AUTOSAR
- Silli Auto - APIGear presentation next week at VSS meeting
- API Standardization
- finalize "API-standardization charter V1.0" : Proposed Charter
- Review and Comment on API Standardization - Presentation
- Volvo
- Magnus Feuer working on engagement strategy and bringing others in
- Technical Summit/Workshop
- AMM
- Register if you are coming.
Agenda 2024-08-13
- IFEX
- Web-viewer work
- Fixed bug regarding dbus code generator
- Kickstart IFEX in AUTOSAR
- VISS
- AMM Workshop
- uServices
- uServices to work with CDSP
- CDSP
- Data processing lib added
- Grafana
- Continued work on knowledge layer connector
- Data Ecosystem
- Swen to present at fall AMM
Agenda 2024-08-06
Agenda 2024-07-30
- finalize "API-standardization charter V1.0" : Proposed Charter
- Review and Comment on API Standardization - s. Presentation
- Proposal: own "API-Standardization"-Workshop at AMM on Tue Sept 24th.
Agenda 2024-07-22
Agenda 2024-07-10
- API Standardization Discussion
- vsomeip status
- IFEX
- dbus code generator used but having compilation issues
- positive movement in getting other implementations out (e.g. impl in golang, web visualizer). Not official but can take time.
- useful for those wanting to take part in other development
- HLAPI
- push further in commercial vehicle space
- pitch topic for AMM
- AMM
Agenda 2024-06-25
- API Standardization Presentation
- vsomeip
- VISS
- 3 document structure agreed
- HLAPI
- Continuing to present to others
- AOSP SDK
- Opportunity to connect projects
- AUTOSAR
- Approach your company's representative for details of how to move forward
- IFEX
- releases can be done more easily with json schema
- overall documentation work
- Encourage input from others
- API Standardization
- Presentation by Achim Henkel Bosch
Agenda 2024-06-18
- IFEX
- CVIS
- Commercial Vehicle
- vsomeip
- AOSP Update
- Boot camp last week. Public announcements when available shoudl make it clear
- Emulator SDK overview from SNAPP
Agenda 2024-06-11
- CDSP
- vsomeip
- vsomeip_py project public as of 2024-06-10
- Meeting next Monday at 16:00 CET / 10am ET / 7am PT
- HLAPI
- working on bringing project charter forward
- Commercial Vehicles
- presenting proposed charter to Board tomorrow
- IFEX
- pull requests
- hope to deliver web visualizer
- AOSP SDK
- Encourage to look at aasig repos
- mapping VSS to VHAL
Agenda 2024-06-04
- Swen's HLAPI proposal
- IFEX Update
- Commercial Vehicle Information specifications
- Kickoff meeting yesterday
- Next meeting on 6/17
- Central Data Services Playground
- GM (Halim) to discuss integrating emulator/mocker in meeting tomorrow (6/5)
- 0.1.0 released
- BMW work in progress pull request for knowledge layer connector
Agenda 2024-05-28
- Update Swen's proposal
- Swen to start project
- proposal
- call for collaboration
- collect requirements
- Show relationship to current work
- Show relationship to work in other organizations
- IFEX update
- Commercial Vehicle Interface Specifications
- First meeting June 3 7am PT / 4pm CET
- AUTOSAR Update
- Project naming/acronyms
- Trying to avoid naming/acronym collions/overloading
- Suggested Commercial Fleet Interface Specifications
- Events on and layering on VSS
Agenda 2024-05-21
- Presentation from @Swen Schisler
- Re-address/re-evaluate C&CS and look at bigger picture
- Review existing material
- How to start/renew?
- Important to consider naming and branding (e.g. Common Vehicle Interfaces vs Commercial Vehicle Information Specification)
- What are the desired outputs
- Tech stack one leg of the output
- Architecture
- Requirements
- Disconnected projects not ideal
- Many ecosystems involved
- Should express the requirements
- Action Item: Continue to review what has been done - concrete to carry forward
- Action Item: Find someone willing to lead - Swen
- Action Item: Call for participation
- Action Item: Provide context and map existing projects to it
- AUTOSAR update
- IFEX
- Cleaning up and refactoring
- Commercial Vehicle Information Specifications
- reviews by Commercial Vehicle BoF and Data Expert Group Chairs
- Planned meeting on June 3
Agenda 2024-05-14
- Presentation from @Swen Schisler
- Project proposal next week
- IFEX
- HIM and Commercial Vehicles - review scheduled
- VISS
- FIrst meeting was held on Monday
- Connected Safety
- Payment
- IFEX
- CDSP
Agenda 2024-05-07
- Presentation from @Swen Schisler
- Project Updates
- VISS - will meet on Mondays at 4pm CET starting May 13.
- HIM and Commercial Vehicles - proposal submitted for review
- IFEX -
- Versioning reviewed - all backward compatible currently
- Leverage internal work done with Thrift perhaps
- Interested in furthering work with AUTOSAR Automotive API
- Cleaning up and improving quality
- CDSP
- RemotiveLabs feeder
- Knowledge Layer connector
- Action Item: Request for use cases - please provide if you have ideas
- Website - will go live - please review
- AOSP
- Push Notification
- Ambient Lighting
- To drive interfaces, emulator, playground
- Entertainment
- Payments
- VHAL
- Camera API - mentioned in AOSP group again
Agenda 2024-04-30
- Presentation from @Swen Schisler
- Project Updates
- VISS - will meet on Mondays at 4pm CET starting May 13.
- HIM and Commercial Vehicles
- Evaluate if VSS works or new trees for Commercial Trailers
- Align with current VSS contributors
- IFEX
- Clear versioning
- CI work
- Protobuf
- Interface and layering
Agenda 2024-03-26
- IFEX
- protobuf
- GRPC
- AUTOSAR
- How to create appropriate layered def
- VISS/VISSR
- Ready to announce move to COVESA next week
- uServices
- How do we reuse this of definitions? Interface behavior? Logic?
Agenda 2024-03-19
- Pick up where we left off last week.
- Commodity catalog submissions - anything new?
- Walk through nascent backlog
Agenda 2024-03-12
- Contribute Commodity Catalog Call for Submission
- Start with submissions on seating, cabin climate from BMW, Mercedes, Ford, GM
- Stronger Agenda - Potential Comments
- Signal discovery at interface level
- Blueprints
- e.g. Errors. Ford has common errors
- Commodity Service
- never compared to VHAL
- BMW - Connected VHAL properties
- Start with Seating and HVAC
- Action Item: Provide Seating HVAC - Try to get Seating capabilities
- Ping Gunnar about commits
- Getting this offline and readiness
- IFEX - Overlay for AUTOSAR for ARXML VHAL/SOMEIP
- HIM Rule set
- User Identity
- ActionItem: What work can we work on as a group, key fob related to vehicle signals and how related to user identity
- Extension for key fob on VSS
- Authentication
- Some requests have OBD / Emmisions regulations
- How is this handled in VISS and Kuksa
- Very specific topics like IFEX <> uServices
- Backlog in GitHub
Agenda 2024-02-27
- vsomeip
- VISS repos
- IFEX Protobuf
- Central Data Service Playground mvp running
- AMM
- VISS presentations/sessions
- VISS overview, status, announcement
- blueprint brainstorm
Agenda 2024-02-20
- blueprint brainstorm
- VISS to COVESA
- Automotive WG closed
- create repos in COVESA and move from w3c
- Names spec (VISS) and implementation (VISS-)
- use respec for spec
- AMM
- VISS presentations/sessions
- VISS overview, status, announcement
Agenda 2024-02-13
- Licensing meeting this week with AUTOSAR - Discussion
- Blueprint brainstorm
Agenda 2024-02-06
- Licensing meeting this week with AUTOSAR
- VISS in progress of moving to COVESA
- IFEX and uServices
- Blueprint Patterns
- Discovery Patterns
- Notification
- Request Response
- Configurability
- Ease of Use
- Level of API - 3rd party app, lower level SDV, or...
- Next Week - Brainstorm Blueprints
Agenda 2024-01-30
- Licensing meeting this week with AUTOSAR
- VISS in progress of moving to COVESA
- IFEX and uServices
Agenda 2024-01-23
- IFEX and uServices - synch status
- Protobuf "option" meaning discussed - it is used for configuration parameters that modify the behavior of the interface. Need to determine how this will manifest in IFEX.
- VISSv2
- Paul Boyes to setup meeting regarding mechanical transfer to COVESA
- ARXML License Discussion
Agenda 2024-01-16
- Digital key - Ted
- IFEX and uservices - synch meeting -
- Ted Guild Start topic of identity in CVI - Ted Guild Erik Jaegervall Halim Ragab to bring initial use cases forward Gunnar Andersson happy to support if needed in IFEX
- Halim Ragab IFEX to/from uservices and IFEX to/from someip
- Adnan Bekan Android and Apple APIs - extract all functions an list for discussion
- Paul Boyes to arrange for moving VISS to COVESA
- @remotive labs working on feeder opportunity for work
- identify shared work in VISS
- Playground forming container with VISS
- Mongo adding Realm
- BMW working on knowledge layer
- Scoping catalog work
- blueprints look at existing initiatives
- Identity -
Agenda 2023-11-28
Prioritized Topics:
- Capability Lists Review
- IFEX and uservices
- ACTION ITEM: Adnan Bekan Look at Android 14 - Vehicle Attributes and APIs for capabilities (Seats, Steering Wheel....) Link
- ACTION ITEM: Melissa Morris Melissa to do the exact same thing for Seats as HVAC - Week of Dec 5
- ACTION ITEM: @everyone VSS and IFEX discussion read doc
- ACTION ITEM: @everyone Review capabilities outlined in uservices
- Goal: Gunnar Andersson , Paul Boyes , @everyoneAgreed common/computable representation/description of common capabilities at a logical level
- Is IFEX mature enough to define common capabilities
- Attempt to define HVAC interfaces in IFEX
- Domain Priority
- Playground: @everyone - Provide examples of what is needed input in Playground. What examples would be useful? What is the goal of that example?
- Try it out and get involved.
- What representation? Why? Show a reference implementation on Playground
Agenda 2023-11-21
Prioritized Topics:
- Capability Lists Review
- IFEX and uservices
- ACTION ITEM: Melissa to do the exact same thing for Seats as HVAC - Week of Dec 5
- ACTION ITEM: VSS and IFEX discussion read doc
- ACTION ITEM: Review capabilities outlined in uservices
Agenda 2023-11-14
Prioritized Topics:
Meeting notes 2023-11-7
- Attendees
- Prioritized Topics:
- Provide overview and background to new attendees
- Re-sync on next steps
- Discussion of how best to align
- Action Items
- Paul Boyes and others Identify diagram(s) to serve as simple stack diagram for group reference.
- @OEMs/Everyone Bring capability lists to next weeks meeting in whatever format you have them.
- @everyone review previous work
Meeting notes 2023-10-24
- Prioritized Topics:
- Gunnar looking at converting uServices
- Blueprints
- Looked at https://apiblueprint.org/
- uServices - look to extract patterns, look at options when Halim back
- business logic separated from deployment
- Number of rows... Number of seat rows? Constant or set at design
- Ford - Meet Shareef/Ford at Nov 7 during regularly scheduled meeting
Meeting notes 2023-10-24
- Prioritized Topics:
- Blueprint
- Ford - Meet with on Nov 2
- Blueprint
- Catalog/Capabilities
- Meet Nov 2 from 9-10am ET
- BMW to provide feedback on IFEX
- Apple
- Can we get API documentation from Apple?
- AI: Halim and Adnan to work internally
- Google
- Followed up
- We need to get back to them when we have something
- Automotive API (formerly Vehicle API)
Meeting notes 2023-10-17
- Agenda discussion - anything that needs to be added?
- AMM review
- Define scope of each project,
- project interconnectivity/interplay
- Participants
- Action: Paul to start the above
- Action: Ford to find rep
- Action: Reach out to Honda
- Action: Reach out to Hyundai
- Proposed: once a month Asia friendly model. Do more discussions in writng. Slack, GitHub, Wiki...
- Direct contribution needed
- IFEX looking at translation to uServices and vice versa
- Action: GM to meet with Mbitiion re IFEX
- Catalog → OpenAPI and/or uServices and/or IFEX or HIM
- Simple easy to follow. Guidance to follow. How to document?
- Blueprint for how API's should be described
- How granular?
- Governance
- Action: Get Google documentation
- Coherency, safety security, performance, access control
- Action: Start outline
- Prioritized Topics:
- Capabilities
- IFEX
- uServices
- DDS
- VISS
- HIM
- Vehicle API
- Prioritized topics for next meeting
Meeting notes 2023-09-05
- Prioritized Topics:
- Discussed How to handle this Common Vehicle Interfaces meeting. Agreed to start listing service capabilities.
- Action Item: Halim Ragab to start a Capabilities page and Usecases page
- AMM:
- Block out time for discussions
- Discuss Use cases, why common vehicle interfaces matter?
- Integrating with the vehicle
- Mapping to VHAL
- Capabilities
- Meet with Google to discuss integration via common interfaces/services
- Create good example and present prior to AMM